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  1. #101
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    You see, THEY HANDED him the blank check so theoretically THEY were giving him too much. Looking at how much Brown was paid, it's fairly logical to say Lakers were ready to pay Phil a pretty penny as they have before.

  2. #102
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    And? They can give Phil too much money, but not appease all of his demands. I simply stated that being overpaid was one of the perks on the table. Seriously, where are you going with this?

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    You can HAVE D'Antoni.

    Be ready for zero accountability, gimmicky offense and losing to the Spurs every year.

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    L.A. Suns...where's Culbear when you would sincerely like to hear his take on this
    Culbear would find a way to defend this like he does everything else involving the Lakers players/front office/coaches/etc.

    Kobe and Buss could get caught having an orgy with farm animals and Culbear would find a way to defend it.

  5. #105
    It is what it is. Mark in Austin's Avatar
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    Seriously, how obtuse is Jim Buss? You have one of the most valuable franchises in the world at your fingers and it's printing money. All you have to do is make smart choices, trust your GM (who has proven he can remake a roster effectively), and stay the out of the way. The cash & love would never stop. But nooooooo, you have to go and let your ego get in the way.

    To quote 21: "That's re ed."

  6. #106
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    Seriously, how obtuse is Jim Buss? You have one of the most valuable franchises in the world at your fingers and it's printing money. All you have to do is make smart choices, trust your GM (who has proven he can remake a roster effectively), and stay the out of the way. The cash & love would never stop. But nooooooo, you have to go and let your ego get in the way.

    To quote 21: "That's re ed."
    Always was in favor of Jeanie running it when Jerry retired to a casino, tbh

  7. #107
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Lakers fans simply forgot we got swept 2 years ago with PJ.

  8. #108
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    pass: So far you have said that Phil had a blank check, but money was an issue (which, if you give someone a blank check, don't you think they are going to put the biggest number humanly possible on there? Also, when you hand someone a blank check, that implies you will pay whatever they ask), that I who said Dan will be and should be the hire is as wrong as you saying "it's 100% Phil, i believe all the sources and have formed my opinion on the matter" when Dan was the guy hired.

    Yikes. You also said you were surprised that all the Phil demands where being overblown and asked for a link

  9. #109
    R.C. Deez Nuts. Mugen's Avatar
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    Lakers fans simply forgot we got swept 2 years ago with PJ.
    That was because of Kobe's knee and why he couldn't give it his all for Phil

  10. #110
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    All those extra perks Jackson was supposedly asking for has already been debunked upthread, tbh.

    Baby Buss didn't want to go back in the shadow. Simply as that.
    Not true dawg...

    Mitch and Jimbo has issues with Phil....even rumors of Phil wanting more personnel control is a distraction. Phil didn't talk to them and was dismissive of them both during his last season in particular. The good Dr. Buss already conceded that Phil is ing his daughter so he's not with Phil ing him as well... plus Phil was trying to get Scottie Pippen paid who is seemingly having financial issues..they just wasn't gonna allow this to go on...

    Phil would have brought control, stability, and instant credibility to the locker room. Dantoni will bring it as well but it will take a little more convincing from Kobe and Nash...they both have the utmost respect for Dan and Dan will turn Dwight offensively into a 2008 Amare...The pressure is now on Nash...If he's our QB I want him to feel like he's at home...and now I think he will...

    I think it's a win win for all...Dan has the actual general / team motivation whereas Phil's return was ego based and driven....Dantoni now has the offense and defensive tools to work with...he only had offensive weapons in Phoenix...

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    Kool just ripping off what others say and trying to be serious while still typing with his purplengold troll language.

  12. #112
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    Dan will turn Dwight offensively into a 2008 Amare

  13. #113
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Lakers fans simply forgot we got swept 2 years ago with PJ.
    Phil was leaning on Kobe his last two years..Kobe was the one actually coaching us...it's hard to be player / coach...Phil even admitted it during the 2009 finals when Zo called him out...
    "To tell you the truth, Phil doesn't have to do anything but call time outs," said Mourning about Lakers' coach Phil Jackson. "Kobe is the facilitator. He is the one driving the mission of this particular team right now. The communication level he has with his teammates out there, you can just see it. I think Phil is just showing up, to tell you the truth, and Kobe is doing all the work to make this team successful."
    Phil's response (no sarcasm)

    "That's a pretty good assessment from a guy who played 15 years or so in the NBA. Kobe is doing a lot of the work, Phil said. "I'm just kind of sitting on my chair."
    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun...ts/sp-simers12

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    Phil would have brought control, stability, and instant credibility to the locker room. Dantoni will bring it as well


    Did you miss his time with the Knicks? , back in Phoenix, there were rumors of Nash ignoring D'Antoni half the time and even, IIRC, stories of Nash grabbing the clipboard from D'Antoni and drawing up his own plays....


    D'Antoni is a notorious doormat of a coach who never holds anyone accountable... he is a supposed "offensive genius" who cannot make adjustments and is clueless defensively, always chokes in the playoffs, but still inexplicably keeps getting hired by desperate teams... basically the Norv Turner of the NBA, imho...

  15. #115
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Kool just ripping off what others say and trying to be serious while still typing with his purplengold troll language.
    Stop attempting to be adversarial for the sake of being adversarial

  16. #116
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    Shut up ^

  17. #117
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Did you miss his time with the Knicks? , back in Phoenix, there were rumors of Nash ignoring D'Antoni half the time and even, IIRC, stories of Nash grabbing the clipboard from D'Antoni and drawing up his own plays....



    D'Antoni is a notorious doormat of a coach who never holds anyone accountable... he is a supposed "offensive genius" who cannot make adjustments and is clueless defensively, always chokes in the playoffs, but still inexplicably keeps getting hired by desperate teams... basically the Norv Turner of the NBA, imho...
    He was coaching Melo for crying out loud...Back then Melo finally looks decent but will it last....I submit into evidence that Kobe, Dwight and Nash are no Melo...they're hard nosed and proven winners...plus they admire and respect Dan...Kobe grew up idolizing Dan before any of us even knew who he was...Dan gets a bad rap...But he's never had the defensive players that he could coach up...He's simply NEVER had the players...Now he has Artest, he has Dwight and Kobe is still average..In your hate of LA - I think you guys are seriously over playing your hand on this one...it's a great hire for what we need at the moment...

  18. #118
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    Culbear would find a way to defend this like he does everything else involving the Lakers players/front office/coaches/etc.

    Kobe and Buss could get caught having an orgy with farm animals and Culbear would find a way to defend it.

    ...but didn't Culb claim to be a Suns hater?

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    @ Laker Fan trying to convince himself that Phil MFin' Jackson wouldn't have been an upgrade over Mike D'Antoni. Come on now.

  20. #120
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    Gonna reserve judgment on this move until i get LkrFan's take on the matter so i can predict the exact opposite and end up being right.

  21. #121
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    @ Laker Fan trying to convince himself that Phil MFin' Jackson wouldn't have been an upgrade over Mike D'Antoni. Come on now.
    You're wrong dawg...chest thumping your thoughts won't help you. Phil would have been nice...but Phil is marginally better than Dantoni...In fact none of Phil's teams ever beat a Dantoni lead team in the play-offs.......

    be careful in your response because while true this ^ is a setup comment

  22. #122
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    Dwight and Nash are no Melo...they're hard nosed and proven winners....
    They are literally neither of those things.

  23. #123
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    Phil is no doubt a better coach, but when you look at all the factors (namely motivation and money), Dan should be a good hire but he still has considerable downside obviously.

  24. #124
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    They are literally neither of those things.
    How many injuries have they played with vs. Timmy. Dude you don't even want to go there...

  25. #125
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    Phil is no doubt a better coach, but when you look at all the factors (namely motivation and money), Dan should be a good hire but he still has considerable downside obviously.
    lol - as if Phil had none

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