I agree the best way to snap Manu out of his funk is to start him. Worked in '10 when he went on a tear after Parker got injured.
id be in favor of starting Neal/Manu/De Colo at the 2 and move Green to the 3 instead of starting Jack tbh.
Jack's been our best bench player so far and his D/toughness/playmaking is much more needed in the 2nd unit while Manu gets his groove back.
More i think about, I think Manu should start while Kawhi is out so he doesnt have to be relied on so heavily when hes obv not a 100%.
Yes, it very much can, if not treated correctly, but with the Spurs medical staff, we shouldn't have nothing to worry about. Now if it is severe(seeing that *anything* tendinitis can vary from person to person) Kawhi may end up playing with less minutes, but seeing that he is out 2 weeks or less, I don't think it's severe.
What is quadriceps tendonitis?
Quadriceps tendonitis is a condition characterized by tissue damage and inflammation to the quadriceps tendon. This occurs at the quadriceps' attachment to the top of the knee cap causing pain in the front of the knee just above the knee cap.
The quadriceps muscle originates from the pelvis and thigh bone (femur) and inserts into the top of the knee cap (patella) which in turn attaches to the top of the tibia (shin bone) via the patella tendon (figure 1).
The quadriceps is responsible for straightening the knee during activity and controlling the bend of the knee during weight bearing activity. It is particularly active during sprinting, jumping, hopping, squatting or kicking activities. During contraction of the quadriceps, tension is placed through the quadriceps tendon. When this tension is excessive due to too much repe ion or high force, damage to the quadriceps tendon may occur. Quadriceps tendonitis is a condition whereby there is damage to the quadriceps tendon with subsequent degeneration and inflammation.
Although this condition can occur at any age, it is more common in the older athlete.
Treatment for quadriceps tendonitis
Most cases of quadriceps tendonitis settle with appropriate physiotherapy. The success rate of treatment is largely dictated by patient compliance. One of the key components of treatment is that the patient rests sufficiently from any activity that increases their pain until they are symptom free. Activities which place large amounts of stress on the quadriceps tendon should also be minimized, these include: running (especially up or down hills, or, on uneven surfaces), jumping, hopping, squatting and kicking. Rest from aggravating activities allows the body to begin the healing process in the absence of further tissue damage. Once the patient can perform these activities pain free, a gradual return to these activities is indicated provided there is no increase in symptoms.
Ignoring symptoms or adopting a 'no pain, no gain' at ude is likely to lead to the condition becoming chronic. Immediate, appropriate treatment in all patients is essential to ensure a speedy recovery. Once the condition is chronic, healing slows significantly resulting in markedly increased recovery times and an increased likelihood of future recurrence.
Patients with quadriceps tendonitis should follow the R.I.C.E. Regime in the initial phase of injury. The R.I.C.E regime is beneficial in the first 72 hours following injury or when inflammatory signs are present (i.e. morning pain, night pain or pain with rest). The R.I.C.E. regime involves resting from aggravating activities, regular icing, the use of a compression bandage and keeping the affected leg elevated. Anti-inflammatory medication may also hasten the healing process by reducing the pain and swelling associated with inflammation.
Manual "hands-on" therapy from the physiotherapist such as massage, trigger point releases, joint mobilisation, dry needling, stretches and electrotherapy can also assist with hastening healing and improving flexibility and function in patients with quadriceps tendonitis.
Patients with this condition should perform pain free flexibility and strengthening exercises as part of their rehabilitation to ensure an optimal outcome. The treating physiotherapist can advise which exercises are most appropriate for the patient and when they should be commenced. Typically, the rehabilitation program will focus on stretches for the quadriceps muscles and strengthening exercises for the quadriceps, gluteals and core stabilisers.
In the final stages of rehabilitation, a graduated return to running programis required to recondition the quadriceps tendon to running in a safe and effective manner. This should include the implementation of progressive acceleration and deceleration running drills before returning to sport and should be guided by the treating physiotherapist.
http://www.physioadvisor.com.au/1493...sioadvisor.htm
I think replacing Kawhi is pretty straightforward. Jackson starts at SF and Ginobili is the backup SF. That means Mills and Neal are the guards off the bench.
Last season, Ginobili was MUCH better defensively at small forward according to every available advanced statistic. Subjectively, I think it makes sense. While Ginobili isn't as quick as he used to be and can give up penetration against quick guards, he's still a mean SOB. Nobody ever bullies Ginobili in the low-block. If they try to, he usually either defends it well or draws an offensive foul.
To be honest, I have no worries about Ginobili defending small forwards. At this stage of his career, he probably defends that position better than SG anyways.
As for Jackson, it'll be a seamless move into the starting lineup. Hopefully Pop doesn't try to overthink this and makes this obvious lineup adjustment.
Not of fan of Patty and Neal being in the game at the same time.
whii???
terrible
Ya, that's a good point. I'm mainly bummed because I think we were starting to see Kawhi's development come together, and it's a shame that this will delay that process by a few weeks. I think we have enough depth to come out of these next 1-2 weeks looking OK, but everybody is going to have to play a lot better than they have lately.
The Spurs can rotate Green, Manu and Jack at SG/SF. Plus some spot minutes for De Colo at SG. The problem is that Manu isn't playing well, and the Spurs won't be able to go small since Manu shouldn't play many minutes.
Parker and Mills at PG will be fine.
If Neal doesn't play, SA simply can rotate Green, Jax and Manu to play the 2/3. I totally agree with dunkman. I prefer Green playing as a backup SF because his 3-pointer is way better than Manu's this season (Manu is shooting at 16% and Green at 44%). I think SA will be fine with Mills as Parker's backup. Hopefully Nando gets some minutes as well.
We're already halfway through the tough stretch and are 2-1 with a close loss.
It's fine if you disagree, but bringing someone in who doesn't know the system and is likely a bottom of the barrel type player isn't going to do us any good short term or long term. SF and SG are pretty much our most stacked positions. We can afford to not have one of them for a week or two.
Yeah, unfortunately it is going to result in more time for the "turd towers". Diaw used to play SF a lot though, he's not that bad at it. I expect he'll be sharing some of the minutes there. Not a ton, but likely around 1/4th of Kawhi's SF minutes will go to Diaw (if Pop goes that route), with the rest going to Manu and Jackson. Possibly more if Manu needs some time off too.
Kidd that was the thin version of Diaw early in his career, I could see it occasionally against some match-ups but most teams with today's Diaw it doesn't work out well match-up wise.
happens. We won't miss him, he can take as much time to heal as he needs. As long as he is 100% come playoff time thats all that matters.
How will we not miss him? Not only is he our best perimeter defender, his absence could result in Bonner or Blair seeing more court time. Plus Manu hasn't been playing all that well.
I agree with the sentiment that it's best to have him ready for the playoffs, but even if the Spurs run the table during this road trip it's not like we can say the team had an easier time winning without KL. This injury is quite a blow since our perimeter D has been questionable for a while now. His offensive output may be a little more replaceable but still...
This blows.
I live in DC and I get one chance to see the Spurs, unless I travel. They're in Washington a week from Monday, so I'm going to miss seeing Kawhi in person this year...
The loss yesterday was sad, but opening the Spurstalk page and reading the thread le ... my weekend already sucks. Get well Kawhi!!!
Yeah I live Near DC TOO! Would that be some if we were the first team to lose to them there? I would not be surprised as things happen but man! I wanted to see Leonard too! I will watch the game here still, but man damn I wanted us at full to see them here.
Well, while he needs to get well soon he shouldn't be rushed.
Better have everyone ready for the postseason instead, tbh.
Better now than in the playoffs.
And there's no way in Boris can play SF these days. It's much easier for him to play as a Center than as a SF. Pretty positive a SJAX/Manu/Green rotation will happen to eat those SG/SF minutes.
Hopefully he gets well soon, but with no rush.
We have enough perimeter players to fill the holes, but what it does do is make it more difficult to play Pop's beloved small ball. I say use this as an excuse to make the move on KMart to fill a chronic hole, and play big ball until Leonard returns.
Witherspoon might be worth a quick look.
fck.
Hmmm... didn't this injury cause major problems (I think even surgery) for Elliott? Hopefully it's not as serious for Kawhi.
McDonald just tweeted that the problem is I the quad, not the knee, which is somewhat semantic. either way, if a 21 year old has tendonitis problems in the knee area so early in the season, it tells us that Kawhi's off season weight lifting was improperly handled. He either has underdeveloped quad/ham muscles, or they are imbalanced. This shouldn't be a lingering problem if he waits until the flare up goes away, and then properly strengthens his leg muscles. However, it probably doesn't bode well for in-game performance if he's been spending off-days leg rehabbing.
I see this as at least they are getting the injuries out of the way early on.
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