Stephen Jackson has an expiring contract. He has been a great addition, accepted coming off the bench well, played generally well with good team basketball. To lose him would be a major reduction in our depth...
On the other hand, he's 34 and known to be difficult if he gets no contract or offered a contract he doesn't like. Captain Jack also occasionally stopped working AFTER he got the next big contract, though admittedly that was on a losing team. In other words, he's motivated to be on his best behavior NOW in order to get the next contract. Why change those conditions?
So, the Spurs's FO seems to have options.
1. Keep him and do an extension during the season.
2. Let him test free agency after the season, but tender an offer... (i.e try to keep him).
3. Use his expiring contract in a trade.
4. Let him walk in free agency. (No offer),.
I'd like to keep him. But the problem with Jack, no matter how good he is, he thinks he's even better. If the Spurs offered an extension during the season he didn't like, he might stop being so much a team player. (He's done that with other teams before.) If we don't offer him an extension, he also might get to be a pain. If we don't offer him a contract until after the season, we could lose him without getting anything back.
So, if we were to offer Stephen, I don't know 5 to 6 million a year, would he take it? Would he be worth it? Or would be insulted at the "cut" and suddenly become difficult? He's making 10 million now, but I can't see the Spurs doing anything close to that.
What do you think the FO 1) shoud do and 2) will do ?
Best, Bill
Last edited by BillMc; 11-18-2012 at 04:26 PM.
Trade him
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Offer him 2 years 10-12 mil. If he doesn't take the deal than he's an idiot.
Yeah he might think he's better than he is, but it's not like he tries to play above I himself. I never see him go out there and try to do too much.
I'm not so sure he will be insulted in taking less money, as he's happy to be here and realizes his role. I am all for holding onto him and think he's a big reason for last year's success. If a couple more people play with his toughness and confidence, then the airlines would have sold a whole lot of tickets to Miami from San Antonio earlier this year. I also can't think of a trade for his expiring that matches his worth. He fits with the Spurs......damn glad he's back!
You've got to be kidding about the first one and the last one
It's a really burning question I think; one of the biggest ones of the year for the Spurs. It's either going to be a trade or it's going to be a re-sign situation. My assumption would be that they will try to work out an extension for next season, and if Jack wants too much, they will trade him instead.
I'd personally like to keep him, but if trading him can land us that much needed big, I'm willing to let him go for that. Kawhi has improved enough (still needs to work on his offense though) to where I'm confident with him on the floor in almost every situation besides badly needing buckets.
too much. I'd offer him two years 6-8 mil, he won't get much else anywhere and maybe he will prefer to retire here.
It's not too much. A one year contract worth 6-8 mil is easy to move if it comes to that during his last year.
About the first one because the Cavs would never go for that?
Leave him to expire, waive him, resign Manu and a big free agent (possibly a max deal) and then offer him the room exception (2 years, $5m). Same if he gets traded, if he's willing to take the room exception make sure he knows we want him back
Hoepfully we can make the most of free agency and get someone like Millsap. If we can't get a halfway decent free agent, give him a bit more money and resign Splitter
Yeah, Varejao has looked like a cornerstone big man early this season. The spurs would be fleecing the Cavs if that trade went down. No way would they let that happen.
Keep him, he's even said how happy he is here and that he wants to retire here. It might be longshot but you never know, he might even take less ala Duncan. But again, it is a longshot. Either way, keeping him seems like a smarter choice in my book.
no doubt keep him. if timmy is your backbone of the team, gino is the heart, tony parker the brains, then stephen jacksons got to be the balls. you cant win a championship without some balls.
Keep him and try to re-sign him for two more years in the offseason. He fits too seamlessly to let go of again.
Ya, my ideal would be a 2 year 10 mil deal. If he keeps up his current level of play, make the last guaranteed. He's Jax, I think he would see that as a respectable deal. Since he got back with the Spurs, he has frequently talked very openly and humbly about taking a back seat to the young players, coming off the bench, fitting in where he can etc, all just team first kinda stuff. Personally, I don't think that's all talk, and I'd be very surprised if him and Pop don't work out a way for him to retire as a Spur.
The Spurs will be better keeping Jack. They could add a big like K-Mart as FA and if he doesn't fit, try with another FA the next season, for example David West. Jack is too valuable, specially for the playoffs and small ball.
Meh I'd only even think about letting him go if we had a shot at a (potential) elite defensive PF since we'd be letting go our best PF defender when the west is full of elite PFs, and I don't think we do.
How about McGee? Paid 10M to sit on the bench but if that doesn't work out we're stuck with him for a while, super risky...
He's had the freedom to play by his coach. Splitter could probably do the same in a similar situation.
If Splitter had Varejao's motor, there wouldn't be so many Spurs fans wanting to make this trade.
It's a good question for in 3 months, when it will be near the trade deadline. Right now, it's premature.
Jackson's value is fairly low given his skills because he's too old for a young (rebuilding) club to want.
He's in the "late bargain" phase of his career (as opposed to the "early bargain" phase which K. Leonard is in).
I wouldn't be surprised if he retires as a Spur.
He has a better basketball IQ and I bet his motor would be better on a team where he knew what minutes he was getting from night to night. It is not a surprise Splitter had one of his better games when he started. Pop gives him inconsistent minutes and calls him a blue collar player to feed the perception that he isn't that good. It seems to work.
For a myriad of reasons, I think he'll be kept.
1) They value his toughness/confidence/swagger and know they need more of it.
2) He's a quality small ball PF option, which is important given their weakness at PF, as well as the fact that the two reigning conference finalists possess the best small ball PF options in the league.
3) He's a proven shot maker in the playoffs.
4) The type of player they'd grudgingly include him in a trade for (Smith), they more than likely cannot get.
5) The best they can probably get (Varejao) won't require trading him. I think there's a good chance of a Splitter, Blair, Bonner and Mills for Varejao and Leuer trade going down whether McDyess returns or not, but presuming he does, I think the chances would only increase.
I think the Spurs will offer him 2 years/$6 or 7M. He'll probably initially balk, then quickly come to the realization that he can't do better and re-sign.
I like him, but 6m/year for SJAX is way too much. Seriously, there won't be any compe ion around the league to get Jackson in the off-season, unless he is willing to play for the min, something that I don't see happening at all.
I mean, Ronnie Brewer and Matt Barnes got the minimum. Vince Carter and Andre Miller got 3m/year. Guys like Brandon Rush, Mareese Speights and Carl Landry got 4m/year.
There's 0 reason for San Antonio to offer him 6m/year. Offer him 3m/year for 2 years. If he doesn't like, tell him to gauge his value around the league. I am sure It won't take more than a single day for SJAX to reconsider the offer.
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