Big East left out of the power conferences in 2014

[Pelicans78]

I really think sooner or later Houston gets invited to the big xii.

I don't see it. They don't generate alot of revenue in any of their sports. They don't have good facilities either and their football program will be done for awhile now. Their football stadium is real ty especially in the later afternoons when the sun is blaring in everyone's eyes. Big 12 would be better off with other schools. Plus, I've heard they seem content with 10 teams right now and really aren't interested in a conference championship game which only hurts teams fighting for a national championship. Wouldn't surprise me if they expand either.

[coyotes_geek]

I feel better just knowing Boise will be on the schedule every year. the nBE schools simply need to set themselves up for the next round of alignment. I'm hoping every conference gets to 14, opening up 8 slots. - Notre Dame, BYU, Louisville, Cincy, Boise will be first to in.

That leaves 3 spots for the rest of us to fight over.

I don't see a major round of realignment anytime soon. Things are pretty stable right now with the Power 5 conferences. The SEC/Pac/B1G would only be interested in expanding if they could get some Big12 or ACC teams. But with the B12 teams having given away their TV rights to the conference for the next 13 years and the ACC upping their exit fee to $50mil + adding ND as a psuedo-member, both those conferences seem to have successfully locked themselves down. There may be a minor round of realignment if the big12 decides they need a conf championship game, but that would just involve the B12 picking up a couple of BigEast/CUSA teams. That's not going to be a significant enough move to make the SEC, Pac or B1G feel like they have to do something.

The only thing I see that could spur another massive realignment like we've seen the last few years would be Texas blowing up the Big12 after the current grant-of-rights agreement expires.

[coyotes_geek]

I really think sooner or later Houston gets invited to the big xii.

Very doubtful. Doesn't expand the conference's TV footprint since Texas is already a much bigger presence in the Houston market than Houston could ever be and all the B12 schools rely on the Houston area for recruiting. The last thing they want to do is give those kids an opportunity to play B12 football from their hometown. Same reasons why UofH didn't get to tag along with Texas and A&M when the SWC blew up.

[Blake]

I would have said that about TCU and the DFW area as well before, but here they are. True that adding Houston adds no extra TVs to the Big 12, but it keeps another conference from adding that market.

Houston is a strange school. They have some nice history in both football and basketball, a large enrollment of undergrads (40k?), and nice academics- primed to be a flagship school

Yet they are incredibly apathetic towards sports. Maybe it's still a commuter school? Maybe they are always second fiddle to the pro teams? Dunno, but I think if they start talking Big 12, I think they get energized.

the Big 12 will get back to 12 in the next 5 years, imo. Coaches/ADs might not want a conference le game, but there is just too much money that comes from a le game to ignore it for very long.

I think Louisville gets in first, and the invite will go out to BYU.

I think BYU turns it down and the remaining list of candidates for the 12 spot becomes very short. I think it ends up being Houston.

[Blake]

Also it sucks ass to call it the Big 12 when it only has 10 teams.

[coyotes_geek]

The same things that kept UH out of the Big 12 originally also kept TCU out, but once the Big12 dropped down to 8 teams the B12 didn't have the luxury of being choosey. They needed warm bodies to get back to 10 teams and TCU had some BCS credibility. Now that the conference is stable again, they can go back to being picky.

UH's main problem is that there's just too much compe ion for the city's sports attention. Texas, A&M and probably even LSU have a bigger Houston following than UH does, plus there's also the NFL to compete with. They started to make up some ground the past few years, but then A&M came along and stole their coach. Still, it says a lot about UH's potential that Texas and A&M don't want to see UH given an opportunity.

[spurs1990]

I think Blake had a valid outlook for us getting to the B12 potentially.

The city of Houston produces prospects every year and should be repped in the big 5. LA, Dallas, Miami are examples.

Also with ATM playing in the east, that may diminish reticence among the current B12 group. And of course I'm thinking this occurs 5-7 year down the line.

[coyotes_geek]

Also with ATM playing in the east, that may diminish reticence among the current B12 group. And of course I'm thinking this occurs 5-7 year down the line.

I'd think the opposite is more likely, IMHO. Big 12 schools recruiting the Houston area are already facing increased compe ion as a result of A&M now being able to offer SEC football less than two hours from home. What's it going to do to those schools Houston area recruiting to let UH come in and start offering kids the opportunity to play big 12 football in their hometown? That may not be all that much of a threat to Texas and OU recruiting, but Tech, Baylor, OKState and the Kansaii sure stand to lose a lot if UH gets in.

[vander]

I feel better just knowing Boise will be on the schedule every year. the nBE schools simply need to set themselves up for the next round of alignment. I'm hoping every conference gets to 14, opening up 8 slots. - Notre Dame, BYU, Louisville, Cincy, Boise will be first to in.

That leaves 3 spots for the rest of us to fight over.

I don't see Boise ever getting into the Big 5. BSU peaked, and there isn't close to the money/infrastructure behind BSU football as there is in the Big 5 level programs. we lucked out with a string of coaches, each one better than the last, and QBs, each one better than the last. The QB run has come to an end, and now with Bleymaier gone, BSU will regress back to an average/afterthought program if we lose Peterson, which, If Chip Kelly bolts to the NFL...

[Clipper Nation]

Another ful take from Vander, tbh...

Boise hasn't peaked... this is a reloading year, tbh.... according to you, the program should have peaked after our 3-loss season with Tharp, right? But then Kellen Moore happened...

Boise was still in contention for a BCS bowl this year until injuries and suspensions did us in against SDSU.... this was with a lot of our starters leaving for the NFL....

If you think Boise would turn down an invite from the PAC or Big 12, you're dumber than I thought.... they need the money and the leverage against the Vandal-humping state government to improve academically.....

[vander]

Another ful take from Vander, tbh...

Boise hasn't peaked... this is a reloading year, tbh.... according to you, the program should have peaked after our 3-loss season with Tharp, right? But then Kellen Moore happened...

Boise was still in contention for a BCS bowl this year until injuries and suspensions did us in against SDSU.... this was with a lot of our starters leaving for the NFL....

If you think Boise would turn down an invite from the PAC or Big 12, you're dumber than I thought.... they need the money and the leverage against the Vandal-humping state government to improve academically.....

who said anything about turn down? there's a reason the Pac 12 invited the likes of Colorado instead of BSU

Bleymaier was the genius, not enough people, even BSU fans, realize this. without him, and without the legions of alumni/donors that the bigtime programs have (as well as being located in "better" climates and closer to all the HS talent) BSU will come back down to the level one would expect of a little school in little Boise Idaho

[Pelicans78]

PAC 12 or Big 12 probably won't invite Boise, especially the PAC 12.

[FkLA]

UTSA to Big XII !!!!

[Clipper Nation]

Bleymaier was the genius, not enough people, even BSU fans, realize this. without him, and without the legions of alumni/donors that the bigtime programs have (as well as being located in "better" climates and closer to all the HS talent) BSU will come back down to the level one would expect of a little school in little Boise Idaho

Bleymaier's not coaching the team or recruiting the players, tbh.... considering how many of our starters from last year graduated, a down year was to be expected, tbh... it happens at nearly every program...

[spurs1990]

Well what do you know. The conference hopping has started earlier than expected.

Race to 16 is on. No way the Bevo Conference stands pat at 10...Cincy/Louis/Boise/UH....please DeLoss 3 big markets and the biggest non AQ on the block. No brainer.

[coyotes_geek]

Check out the big balls on Maryland. I wonder where the they managed/will manage to scrape up $50mil for that ACC exit fee.

[DesignatedT]

I wonder what Mizzou think about the B1G taking Rutgers and Maryland . Mizzou had practically been begging for an invite for the longest time.

[coyotes_geek]

Well what do you know. The conference hopping has started earlier than expected.

Race to 16 is on. No way the Bevo Conference stands pat at 10...Cincy/Louis/Boise/UH....please DeLoss 3 big markets and the biggest non AQ on the block. No brainer.

That's one scenario.

Another is the ACC simply plucks Louisville away from the Big East which balances out both of those conferences and this round of realignment stops right there.

Then again, maybe a couple of schools out of the UNC/NCState/Virginia/VTech quartet decide this might be a good time to lob the SEC a phonecall.

[coyotes_geek]

I wonder what Mizzou think about the B1G taking Rutgers and Maryland . Mizzou had practically been begging for an invite for the longest time.

The Mizzou fans I know pretty much lost interest in the Big10 after Nebraska got the invite over them. Anecdotal, but still.......

[Clipper Nation]

Another is the ACC simply plucks Louisville away from the Big East which balances out both of those conferences and this round of realignment stops right there.

I don't think anyone's lining up to join the ACC, tbh... aren't Free Shoes U, Clemmy, and GT trying to leave?

Louisville and Boise to the Big 12 would be the smartest play, tbh... Cincy and Houston will be returning to Conference USA ecstacy if that happens imho...

[coyotes_geek]

I don't think anyone's lining up to join the ACC, tbh... aren't Free Shoes U, Clemmy, and GT trying to leave?

Louisville and Boise to the Big 12 would be the smartest play, tbh... Cincy and Houston will be returning to Conference USA ecstacy if that happens imho...

Sort of agree. TBH I think the only schools that are really excited about being in the ACC are Duke, UNC, Virginia and Wake Forest. Everyone else is pretty much just going along with it due to lack of better options. That being said, the ACC still has a seat at the big boy table and the big east just lost theirs, so the ACC can make a pretty tempting offer to any school not already in one of the Power 5 conferences.

I don't see the big 12 doing anything right now. I think they'd rather sit tight and guage the ACC's long term stability before doing anything.

[Blake]

Check out the big balls on Maryland. I wonder where the they managed/will manage to scrape up $50mil for that ACC exit fee.

Why are they wanting to move so badly

[NFO]

Why are they wanting to move so badly

1) More $$$ available in the Big 10

2) Notre Dame got involved in their conference.


Didn't really see a charrter member of the ACC bolting. Wonder if FSU would be next. They were the other school besides Maryland that voted against the higher exit fees.

[Blake]

1) More $$$ available in the Big 10

Exactly how much more

[coyotes_geek]

Here's a tin foil hat scenario for the college football realignment enthusiast.

SEC: 14 teams. 2 spots available to get to 16. Interested in expanding into the Virginia/North Carolina TV markets.
B1G: 14 teams. 2 spots available to get to 16. Interested in expanding their TV markets, be it Virginia, North Carolina, New York or Massachusetts.
Big12: 10 teams. 6 spots available to get to 16. Interested in killing the ACC to ensure their own survival.

Those three conferences conspire to kill the ACC.

SEC takes North Carolina and Virginia.

B1G gets their choice of two out of the VirginiaTech/NCState/Syracuse/BostonCollege quartet.

Big12 takes FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh and whatever two schools the B1G didn't take.

Duke, Miami and Wake Forest end up ed, a scenario which only Duke, Miami and Wake Forest give a about.