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    Not sure if this has been reported on Spurstalk, or if this will even materialize. But Mark Travis (wrote a few nice Spurs pieces) claims he has a "hunch" the Spurs will get Anderson Varejao. He posted it on his twitter and facebook.
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    That would be a welcome addition, but I seriously don't think it has a chance of happening.

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    Won't happen.

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    I think they will too. Right now, it may seem far fetched because Varejao is playing out of his mind and Splitter is struggling mightily, but give this a few months. Law of averages will kick in, Varejao will have another injury scare and they'll realize that they need to sell high on him.

    Splitter, Blair, Bonner and Mills for Varejao and Leuer, makes sense on so many levels. They'd get a center who's three years younger, has far less mileage and is in the mold of who they should have used the 4th pick in '11 on (and were supposedly extremely high on), Valanciunas. They'd get a significant upgrade at backup point guard and improve their fourth and fifth big spots. It may not sound that great, but they've got the 2nd worst bench in the league.

    The other thing is, who'd beat that? The Celtics and Timberwolves will probably strongly pursue him, but the Celtics don't have the pieces to pull it off. The Timberwolves do (Williams, Ridnour, Stiemsma), so long as the Cavs view Williams as a full time SF (faulty thinking, but a distinct possibility) and aren't overly discouraged by his underwhelming start to his career.

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    I think they will too. Right now, it may seem far fetched because Varejao is playing out of his mind and Splitter is struggling mightily, but give this a few months. Law of averages will kick in, Varejao will have another injury scare and they'll realize that they need to sell high on him.

    Splitter, Blair, Bonner and Mills for Varejao and Leuer, makes sense on so many levels. They'd get a center who's three years younger, has far less mileage and is in the mold of who they should have used the 4th pick in '11 on (and were supposedly extremely high on), Valanciunas. They'd get a significant upgrade at backup point guard and improve their fourth and fifth big spots. It may not sound that great, but they've got the 2nd worst bench in the league.

    The other thing is, who'd beat that? The Celtics and Timberwolves will probably strongly pursue him, but the Celtics don't have the pieces to pull it off. The Timberwolves do (Williams, Ridnour, Stiemsma), so long as the Cavs view Williams as a full time SF (faulty thinking, but a distinct possibility) and aren't overly discouraged by his underwhelming start to his career.
    No it doesn't. Why would they take our scrubs for Varejao? That's the 4 worst players on the roster for a guy playing out of his mind, don't see it happening. They will ask for young talent and draft picks. Celtics would probably have to send Bradley, we'd probably have to send Kawhi... They won't trade him if they can't get something worth it.

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    The Cavs need a bench are and tanking this season anyway (Kyrie's out for four weeks).

    The Spurs can afford to move their fringe roster players.

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    I read a short piece on Hoopshype just today, where the Cavs indicated the only conditions upon which they would consider dealing Varejao would have include nothing less than a bonafide young player and some first round draft picks in return. If this is true, and of course the Cavs are probably looking to sell high based upon how he's been playing lately, those coniditions would likely take the Spurs out of the running.

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    I read a short piece on Hoopshype just today, where the Cavs indicated the only conditions upon which they would consider dealing Varejao would have include nothing less than a bonafide young player and some first round draft picks in return.
    In other words an OKC type package.

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    In other words an OKC type package.
    Something probably close to that. With Varejao playing on a mad level these past few games, it's hard to argue against their asking price.

    Right now, the Cavs really have no incentive to trade the big Brazilian center.

    Of course, this will be worth following up to the Feb trade deadline. That's usually when deals get done.

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    Too good to be true.

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    It is too good to be true and that's probably why it will not happen.

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    Who is Mark Travis exactly, and how is he credible?

    I'm not seeing us getting him for just our cast offs either. Varejao is solid and gets paid under 10m a year, and is locked up for 2 years AFTER this one. His average salary is about 9m a year. Why would the Cavs dump that reasonable salary and solid production for basically nothing but guys they could get in free agency in the offseason?

    I find it hard to believe. I don't think they want to trade Varejao that badly. If they trade him, it's likely ONLY going to be for a lottery pick + fillers. We don't have that. So unless there's some kinda 3 team deal (where we still don't really have enough assets to make the deal seem fair), pretty positive we aren't getting Varejao sadly.

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    Imagine the Clips send Bledsoe+filler(Odom?) for Varejao...

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    Imagine the Clips send Bledsoe+filler(Odom?) for Varejao...
    I'm pretty sure the Clippers said Bledsoe was off limits for at least this year, tbh.... I wouldn't be surprised if we trade Odom if he doesn't get his in gear, though...

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    could happen if splitter starts playing better and varejao comes back down to earth. of course by that time, no one on this board will want to do the trade.

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    I'm pretty sure the Clippers said Bledsoe was off limits for at least this year, tbh.... I wouldn't be surprised if we trade Odom if he doesn't get his in gear, though...
    I probably woudn't do it if I was the Clips but if they want to win now it's an intriguing move.

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    Splitter, Blair, Bonner and Mills for Varejao and Leuer, makes sense on so many levels.
    Good joke..


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    The Cavs aren't going to trade Varejao for (perceived) spare parts. If they were going to do that, it would have been last year when they were in full rebuild mode. Byron Scott loves him and Dan Gilbert is delusional enough to think that Cleveland's rebuilding is almost over. Varejao has a reasonable contract, which is even more of a reason why the Cavs aren't going to trade him unless they can flip him for a "star".

    Plus, I'm not sure how interested the Spurs are in Varejao. He's not a great fit offensively -- and in the past the Spurs have shied away from him because they didn't think he was committed enough to a team concept. I doubt they've seen any reason to do a complete 180 on him.

    Varejao to S.A. is just not going to happen.

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    Varejao for Splitter, Bonner and filler is the trade I've been advocating for a while, and I think it would catapult us into strong contention. Doubt it will happen though.

    The other guy I'd be looking closely at is Ilyasova - he's been lost in that over-crowded big rotation in Milwuakee, so maybe we could prise him away for Bonner and filler if Bucks think they overpaid him? Once again unlikely, but I'd be exploring it.

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    Trading Splitter for Varejao would only make us slightly better, I really don't see the point on trading Splitter + fillers and draft picks to get Varejao. We need to get a decent big without trading away Duncan, Diaw or Splitter.

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    I love how every trade thread on this site packages Blair and bonnet. As if teams would take them together

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    Trading Splitter for Varejao would only make us slightly better, I really don't see the point on trading Splitter + fillers and draft picks to get Varejao. We need to get a decent big without trading away Duncan, Diaw or Splitter.
    To trade for Varejao Splitter has to be the one to go since they're both true Cs. Bonner makes up the salary. If we have to throw in another piece or two, so be it. Varejao is an excellent defender and much better rebounder than Splitter, and his O isn't much worse. He even has a fairly decent 15fter. I think it would be a no-brainer.

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    I don't know how I feel about Varejao. He would certainly add some toughness up front, hustle, and defense. But I think he would turn it an offensive liability to be honest. He can't really stretch the floor, he doesn't have a post up game to speak of, and he is not an extremely smart offensive player. For all the faults the Spurs big guys have (excluding Duncan of course) they are atleast reasonably intelligent on offense. Diaw despite being passive is a phenominial passer and essentially has his PhD in basketball. Splitter sets good screens and knows how to roll to the bucket, as does Blair. And Bonner knows spacing and does not play outside of his game. I am not sure how Varejao would fit on a roster that relies so heavily on solid communication and teamwork. It is not that he is a selfish player, but to be on the Spurs you need to be another cog in the machine. Varejao is more of a sparkplug and I think he would have trouble contributing consistently. It would be a risky move to make and I think the Spurs would only pull the trigger if our season was headed downhill fast.

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    It is too good to be true and that's probably why it will not happen.
    It won't happen you guys are correct.

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    You know what? I WAS WRONG. It doesn't "make sense on so many levels", it makes sense on the Spurs part and that's it. Sure, those three would improve their bench, but you don't give up a player of Varejao's value to improve spots 8-10 and Splitter is just not intriguing enough to offset that.

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