My argument is in response to the re ed notion that people asking for more than what they're worth is a new phenomenon in this country when the same thing occurred 50-70 years ago. You're completely changing lanes away from what I was saying. I was addressing this inexplicable, "WE WANT THE OLD AMERICA BACK!" movement in the Republican party that demonstrates a complete lack of understanding to what the old America was.
Many collage grads have jobs at Walmart, Bill Millers, Target, Macy's etc.....
lets see here, who will find a job first........
someone with 4 years of college or a licensed Plumber
Someone with 2 years of film school or an Electrician.
someone with a masters degree or A pole climber for AT&T
Learn something people are always in need of and always have work.
What's a collage grad?
Listen to Mouse. He is speaking with the voice of experience.
*rimshot*
Those are college grads, not collage grads.
Are collage grads people really good at making collages?
I think mouse was just baiting the spelling cops...![]()
He's a in middle aged security guard who makes $12 an hour and lives in a in shack. No one in their right mind would listen to him, or any other dumb who thinks electricians do better than people with 4 year degrees.
The 3 companies I'm in final round interviews with are companies that wouldn't even talk to mouse.
Trust me, there are plumbers and electricians making a of a lot more than millions of college grads with 4 year degrees.
And I was using Mouse as an example of what not to do.
(him not being one of them so he doesn't really have any experience)
Yes, the stupid ones who graduated with a mediocre GPA in something worthless are making less than an electrician. Those are people who had no place in college to begin with. The people who actually make the most out of college are making more than nearly all electricians and plumbers.
Do you think you'd be as successful as you are with a plumbers license instead of a degree?
I have a friend that is a licensed one man plumbing repair company knocking down 125K a year easy and a lot of it in cash.
The guys that work for me are making more than most recent underemployed college graduates.
BTW, I'm not knocking college...I have a pretty useful degree...
Anyone who defends walmart has never worked retail
We can play the "List an obscure example" game all day, that doesn't make it any less of a weak argument.
Good question and hard to answer. My partner that makes just as much as I do only has a high school degree.
So what is your "guaranteed to make you rich" degree going to be in?
missed this part
Pretty sure mouse didn't go to college. That's a lesson for everybody.
Whoever mentioned anything about a degree guaranteed to make me rich? What I do know is that I graduate in May, and the degree I graduate with has led to an already turned down job offer down that started at 51k, and I'm doing final round interviews with 3 companies right now, all of which start over 50k+, which is probably more than the average plumber or electrician makes.
Does the average bachelors degree holder or average plumber make more money?
BTW, thats not an obscure example. It's happening everywhere. Guys that know how to do stuff people need and have to have make good money. I have another friend that was a high school grad that became a mechanic and has his own shop now and he is a multimillionaire.
Uhhh....you are vastly underestimating what plumbers and electricians make.
These are all talented people who would have been successful regardless. They're a far cry from the average plumber, electrician, or mechanic.
What does the average plumber and electrician make?
Simple math
If you take a job paying 55K you are making $26 an hour. Plumbers and electricians make more than that.
Entry level
The median expected salary for a typical Plumber I in the United States is $40,655
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