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    Also, a plumber is someone who spends most of his job knee deep in other people's ......

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    My argument is in response to the re ed notion that people asking for more than what they're worth is a new phenomenon in this country when the same thing occurred 50-70 years ago. You're completely changing lanes away from what I was saying. I was addressing this inexplicable, "WE WANT THE OLD AMERICA BACK!" movement in the Republican party that demonstrates a complete lack of understanding to what the old America was.
    50-70 years ago you didn't have multiple generation living off welfare. 50-70 years ago a welfare family couldn't go to Walgreens and buy onion dip and ruffles with a lonestar card. The "Old America" is what got us to where we are today. I am 110% for helping my fellow American to education, health care, better paying jobs, a better life. However I have no sympathy for head jack who wants a ing handout day after day, month after month, year after year. To close again “Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.”

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    Yes, since that's the only way to create a middle class.
    Actually, you can have a free-market middle class by having sound money instead of hurting middle-class purchasing power through the hidden tax of inflation...

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    Anyone who defends walmart has never worked retail
    I've worked three different retail jobs in my life. Your statement is untrue. Now I don't support all of the things Walmart does, but I don't demonize them like lib s like to do either.

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    I've worked three different retail jobs in my life. Your statement is untrue. Now I don't support all of the things Walmart does, but I don't demonize them like lib s like to do either.
    What things you don't like that Walmart does?

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    http://www1.salary.com/Plumber-I-Salary.html

    The 90th percentile of plumbers makes 55k. The average plumber doesn't make more than 55k. You're making stuff up now.
    Sites like that are bogus. I looked up a past job of mine just a couple years back, and it had the salary around 60% of my companies pay scale a decade ago. I'll bet some businesses fund these sites so their employees think they are getting a great deal.

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    What things you don't like that Walmart does?
    I'm not going to stoke your fire.

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    Sites like that are bogus. I looked up a past job of mine just a couple years back, and it had the salary around 60% of my companies pay scale a decade ago. I'll bet some businesses fund these sites so their employees think they are getting a great deal.
    This is their methodology:
    http://www.salary.com/docs/salwizhtmls/methodology.html

    lol anecdotes

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    Say as you wish, but facts are facts. Part of your link:
    My salary is higher

    There are a number of reasons why your current compensation may be higher than the market data in the Salary Wizard.

    Long tenure or proximity to promotion
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    I'm sorry, but I went industry specific, and I am talking about not just my wage, but the entire wage scale. I have a copy of the wage scale from the year 2000, and this was industry wide. Not just the place I worked for.

    Maybe the site you listed isn't a scam, but my god... Some are really off.

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    You skipped the 'My Salary is lower' section...

    It's not supposed to be strictly accurate (a given, since the number presented are averages and obviously vary by, among other things, location), but to give you a ballpark figure.

    If we start by the fact you have zero credibility... I think I'll stick with the site, crofl

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    If we start by the fact you have zero credibility...
    You think I care that I have zero credibility with lib s like yourself?

    ... I would be worried if I did!

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    You think I care that I have zero credibility with lib s like yourself?

    ... I would be worried if I did!
    If only "lib s" called you out on your bull ..

    lol completely oblivious

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    Actually, you can have a free-market middle class
    Even though in the history of man, a country that believes in laissez-faire economics has never had a stable middle class.

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    Even though in the history of man, a country that believes in laissez-faire economics has never had a stable middle class.
    If you have fiat money, you can't have a stable middle class OR a true laissez-faire economy, tbh...

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    If you have fiat money, you can't have a stable middle class OR a true laissez-faire economy, tbh...
    Can you name an example of any civilization throughout the history of mankind that had stable middle class and a laissez-faire economy?

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    Also, a plumber is someone who spends most of his job knee deep in other people's ......
    Not if your working on new homes and buildings. And tell me what will you pay less for a 4 year collage graduate to spend 3 hours tutoring your child or a plumber 3 hours to install a shower in your home?

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    I would tutor my own child since as a college grad I'd be capable of doing so

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    The Top 5 Most Humiliating Jobs for College Grads

    http://voices.yahoo.com/the-top-5-mo...ds-379383.html


    A college grad working at Walmart: Should I be ashamed?

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1232126AAdMZs9

    So, How's That College Degree Working Out For You?

    http://www.declineoftheempire.com/20...t-for-you.html

    More Than Half of College Grads Underemployed

    http://www.newser.com/story/144554/m...remployed.html

    Guess who's making $16.81 an hour?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505145_162-57437967/guess-whos-making-$16.81-an-hour/

    How Long Will Grads Be Stuck Working In Cafes, Restaurants, and Unpaid Internships?

    http://www.nextnewdeal.net/how-long-...-internships-0

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    I would tutor my own child since as a college grad I'd be capable of doing so
    You should have plenty of time when you get off at target.

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    You should have plenty of time when you get off at target.
    Keep telling yourself that I'll be working at target when I graduate , I know it makes you feel better about the fact you live in poverty.

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    mob at Walmart


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    If your interested..

    Part 1 out of 10 of a film about how the largest supermarket chain in the USA are being paid and begged to open new stores in towns, while they are abusing the American people. Wal-mart have been begged and paid to establish new stores in towns all over America. As soon as the store opens, local shops are forced to declare bankruptcy since they cannot compete with Wal-Marts prices. Employees are victims for racism, and lack of proper health insurance through the job. Wal-Mart wants to put the responsibility on MediCare in order for them to save money. The company don't care about the environment, and they care even less about the Chinese that make all lots of the goods you by for a cheap amount of money. They don't care about you as a customer. Once you have paid for your grocieries, you are left on your own. Security on the parking lot? Forget about it. It costs too much. Again, this is not a film that I have created, I just want the message to get to the people! Please look at the credits at the end of the film!


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    Trust me, there are plumbers and electricians making a of a lot more than millions of college grads with 4 year degrees.
    Very true, but there are always exceptions to the rule. On the whole, I believe that the notion of "The American Dream" has been/is being perverted into exactly that, a dream. I'm particularly found of how people love to cite Bill Gates as a shining example of what that dream is all about. That's about as dumb as all the rap videos about bungalows, blunts, es, ballers, brandy and beer. One would do well to attain a modest house in the surbs with two kids, two cars and a picket fence nowadays.

    I'm inclined to sympathize with anyone who argues for a wage befitting a breadwinner after putting in a full 40, particularly when that standard is marginal to begin with.

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    Thing with a college degree, is there are still only so many jobs requiring it. We are at a point that we have an excess of college graduates in most fields.

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