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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Seriously, do aggys really want this?

    I know ut does. I know I do.

    And if ut wins it..... the semen storm that rips across the lone star state, seeping some into Okie and louisiana would impregnate both hurricanes sandy and katrina in the same jac.

    this has to happen. just has to.

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    Either UT or us. Either way it would be a good matchup. And I seriously think our line would have trouble containing Mr. Football.

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    OU. Nobody gives a if the sooners play aggy.

    This has to be horn v aggy

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    I want the game. The Texas fans I talk to want the game. But I don't think Dodds & Mack want the game. Too much butthurt, too much to lose. The last thing those two want is to see A&M cap off their year by punking them in a bowl game, so I fully expect them to be little es about the whole thing and try to make sure A&M doesn't get the opportunity.

    Getting beyond that for a second to actually look at the football matchup, Texas has one more opportunity against K-state to show me that they're something more than just the least mediocre team out of the bottom 8 in a very, very mediocre big 12. But right now, that's all I'm seeing from them. They got blasted by the only good team they've faced and have struggled against several other mediocre to outright bad teams.

    On the other side of the ledger, yeah, A&M struggled with Mississippi and LaTech and lost two close ones to two really good teams in Florida and LSU. But they've got the huge win against Bama and pretty much blasted everyone else on their schedule.

    A&M's offense is better than Texas' defense by a wide margin and Texas' offense isn't nearly explosive enough to score the amount of points they would need to win. I'll still reserve final judgement until seeing Texas/K-state, but I sure haven't seen anything that makes me think that A&M would have much trouble with Texas.

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    A&M's offense is better than Texas' defense by a wide margin and Texas' offense isn't nearly explosive enough to score the amount of points they would need to win.
    This is pretty much the exact same things aggie fan said last year, and the crappy McCoy tapped that ass.

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    jokes and trash talk aside, I think its a 50/50 game. either team has a solid shot to win. If Aggy wins, they probably win in a blowout, while Texas probably wins a close game, due to the different styles of play. Aggy is more explosive and big play oriented, while Texas chips away at teams with occasional shots downfield off of playaction.

    probably a shootout, as I don't think either team could stop each other consistently. probably a tight 1st half, and a comparable 4th quarter. its all about who would come out with the better adjustments out of half time IMO. 3rd quarter would be where the game is won

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    This is pretty much the exact same things aggie fan said last year, and the crappy McCoy tapped that ass.
    In case you haven't noticed, this is a vastly different team.

    That said, the way to beat us is to throw it deep on us. Our secondary is the most suspect part of our team and it's not even close. I still think A&M wins by 2-3 TDs though.

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    This thread is probably moot. Johnny Manziel and Texas A&M are enormously marketable national commodities right now and the first bowl that can get away with picking them will pick them. If the SEC champion makes the BCS le game and no other SEC team is in the BCS top 4, A&M will make the Sugar Bowl (even over LSU, and yes that is probably unjust, but it would be by design to be unjust). If the SEC champion falls to the Sugar Bowl and is the only team in the top 4, A&M will make the Fiesta Bowl. If two SEC teams are in the BCS top 4 (likeliest scenario), A&M will play in the Capital One Bowl, most likely against Michigan.

    The scenario that must take place for A&M to fall to the Cotton Bowl is a Missouri upset victory on Saturday. However, if that happens, the likelier scenario is that A&M falls to the Outback Bowl.

    If you're thinking that A&M can just say no to the Capital One Bowl if it wants, that will go over like a lead balloon with the 13 other members of the conference A&M allegedly has committed itself to for the long term. Some are su ious that A&M still has its antennae out for a better offer, and that kind of behavior would underscore their su ions.

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    jokes and trash talk aside, I think its a 50/50 game. either team has a solid shot to win. If Aggy wins, they probably win in a blowout, while Texas probably wins a close game, due to the different styles of play. Aggy is more explosive and big play oriented, while Texas chips away at teams with occasional shots downfield off of playaction.

    probably a shootout, as I don't think either team could stop each other consistently. probably a tight 1st half, and a comparable 4th quarter. its all about who would come out with the better adjustments out of half time IMO. 3rd quarter would be where the game is won
    A&M's run defense is pretty solid. It's the secondary that's suspect and I'll take my chances with David Ash through the air trying to keep pace with the points A&M is putting up. I seriously think A&M would be a double digit favorite.

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    HS is right. If FSU beats Florida then A&M will be the SEC at large team unless Manziel and company completely lay an egg on Sat.

    Some are su ious that A&M still has its antennae out for a better offer, and that kind of behavior would underscore their su ions.
    Haven't heard that. What are they su ious of?

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    I think Aggie would deservedly be the (double digit) favorite, but that means little in a heated rivalry like this. I think the best thing for UT would be the long, stupid layoff between the end of the season and a bowl game. They may actually remember how to tackle by taking a month off!

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    This thread is probably moot. Johnny Manziel and Texas A&M are enormously marketable national commodities right now and the first bowl that can get away with picking them will pick them. If the SEC champion makes the BCS le game and no other SEC team is in the BCS top 4, A&M will make the Sugar Bowl (even over LSU, and yes that is probably unjust, but it would be by design to be unjust). If the SEC champion falls to the Sugar Bowl and is the only team in the top 4, A&M will make the Fiesta Bowl. If two SEC teams are in the BCS top 4 (likeliest scenario), A&M will play in the Capital One Bowl, most likely against Michigan.

    The scenario that must take place for A&M to fall to the Cotton Bowl is a Missouri upset victory on Saturday. However, if that happens, the likelier scenario is that A&M falls to the Outback Bowl.

    If you're thinking that A&M can just say no to the Capital One Bowl if it wants, that will go over like a lead balloon with the 13 other members of the conference A&M allegedly has committed itself to for the long term. Some are su ious that A&M still has its antennae out for a better offer, and that kind of behavior would underscore their su ions.
    sports illustrated:

    For one thing, the Pac-12 is all but assured two BCS bids now, which eliminates the ACC's second berth. And with the SEC back in line for a championship game participant, the second choice will go to the Sugar, not the Fiesta Bowl. The Aggies made sense in Glendale, but LSU (or Florida if it beats Florida State this week) gets the nod opposite Oklahoma in New Orleans.

    Mind you, Clemson could get back in the BCS mix if Oklahoma loses to Oklahoma State or TCU and the Big 12 fails to qualify a second team. If not, this week's Clemson-South Carolina winner will head to the Chick-fil-A Bowl. Meanwhile, A&M fans probably won't mind their projected consolation prize: a Cotton Bowl grudge match with Texas.....

    http://m.si.com/399806/cardinal-chance/

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    Not so sure about LSU getting the for sure nod in Sugar. A&M is very attractive right now and if we have the Heisman winner I think Sugar will take A&M. Of course this all doesn't matter if two SEC teams finish in the top 4.

    It is true that Florida State has to beat UF but also Alabama will probably have to beat UGA as well. If UGA beats Bama then I doubt Bama drops passed 4 in the computer rankings and then they will get the nod. K-State and Oregon need to win as well. All things considered it is still a long shot for A&M to land Sugar but certainly possible. Saying that, the Capital One bowl pays out over a million dollars more to teams then the Cotton does so I'm sure A&M prefers it to cotton as well.

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    sports illustrated:
    Sports Illustrated's speculation is incorrect. Those familiar with the thinking of Sugar Bowl officials say they would lean towards A&M if available. SEC internal politics and manipulation of fan bases have something to do with it. The preferences of whiny aggy-obsessed Tech fans have nothing to do with it.

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    Assume that Alabama beats Auburn and Georgia beats Ga Tech. Upsets unlikely in either of those games.

    Assume that A&M beats Missouri.

    Florida beats FSU --> UF to Sugar, aggy to Cap One
    FSU beats Florida:
    ........Alabama beats Georgia close --> UGA to Sugar, aggy to Cap One
    ........Georgia beats Alabama --> Bama to Sugar, aggy to Cap One
    ........Alabama blows out Georgia:
    ................Kansas State AND Oregon win --> aggy to Sugar
    ................either KSU OR Oregon lose --> LSU to Sugar, aggy to Cap One

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    Haven't heard that. What are they su ious of?
    That if Texas and the Big 12 said they were sorry and offered A&M the right deal to come back, they might. Or, to a lesser extent, that if Texas came on hands and knees and begged to have the Thanksgiving game back, that A&M would try to back out of its commitment to play LSU.

    The administration at A&M says all the right things, but prominent boosters, a big chunk of the fan base, and significant parts of the school's freaking fight song still appear to be hung up on a school that A&M has no current plans ever to play again in any sport. Sentiments probably will change with the student body once the current sop res graduate and there are no more undergrads who can remember playing Texas, but sentiments among alums linger for a long, long time. Take for example LSU's enthusiasm to dump its Thanksgiving opponent of 20 years to embrace a rivalry that had been on hiatus since the mid-'90s.

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    a lot of butt hurt between the two teams and texas would probably stand more to lose from a loss to the aggies than a&m would. probably about a 25% shot it happens.

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    That if Texas and the Big 12 said they were sorry and offered A&M the right deal to come back, they might. Or, to a lesser extent, that if Texas came on hands and knees and begged to have the Thanksgiving game back, that A&M would try to back out of its commitment to play LSU.

    The administration at A&M says all the right things, but prominent boosters, a big chunk of the fan base, and significant parts of the school's freaking fight song still appear to be hung up on a school that A&M has no current plans ever to play again in any sport. Sentiments probably will change with the student body once the current sop res graduate and there are no more undergrads who can remember playing Texas, but sentiments among alums linger for a long, long time. Take for example LSU's enthusiasm to dump its Thanksgiving opponent of 20 years to embrace a rivalry that had been on hiatus since the mid-'90s.
    Uh, no.

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    Sports Illustrated's speculation is incorrect. Those familiar with the thinking of Sugar Bowl officials say they would lean towards A&M if available. SEC internal politics and manipulation of fan bases have something to do with it. The preferences of whiny aggy-obsessed Tech fans have nothing to do with it.
    lol your speculation being better than SI's

    Probably not.

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    a lot of butt hurt between the two teams and texas would probably stand more to lose from a loss to the aggies than a&m would. probably about a 25% shot it happens.
    While it's a moot point, probably, I disagree that Texas has more to lose. Based upon national perception right now, a UT loss to A&M would be the expected outcome. The only thing that would change would be bragging rights. The recruiting needle would move not one iota because right now A&M is already perceived as the 'it' school where a kid can play in Texas and stand toe-to-toe with the SEC powers. If aggy were to lose to Texas, it would more or less invalidate everything they've accomplished this year. It would lend credence to the argument that A&M's accolades are overinflated due to the overrating of the SEC and that big brother is still big brother.

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    a lot of butt hurt between the two teams and texas would probably stand more to lose from a loss to the aggies than a&m would. probably about a 25% shot it happens.
    lol no.

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    While it's a moot point, probably, I disagree that Texas has more to lose. Based upon national perception right now, a UT loss to A&M would be the expected outcome. The only thing that would change would be bragging rights. The recruiting needle would move not one iota because right now A&M is already perceived as the 'it' school where a kid can play in Texas and stand toe-to-toe with the SEC powers. If aggy were to lose to Texas, it would more or less invalidate everything they've accomplished this year. It would lend credence to the argument that A&M's accolades are overinflated due to the overrating of the SEC and that big brother is still big brother.
    National perception is one thing. Perception amongst Texas' donors, alumni and fans is another. It sure doesn't sound to me like a loss to A&M would be the expected outcome amongst the longhorn camp. A&M loses, it's just bragging rights. Texas loses, jobs are on the line.

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    lol your speculation being better than SI's

    Probably not.
    You cherry-picked the article that stated what you wanted to believe. I'm sorry that you're all butthurt about aggy not getting the comeuppance you think he deserves, but it really has nothing to do with you.

    There is a reason why the Sugar Bowl would pick A&M over LSU, it's one Stewart Mandel knows nothing about, and it has nothing to do with which team is more deserving. LSU beat A&M, so if 10-2 A&M goes over 10-2 LSU in LSU's own freaking state, it's an absolute injustice, and reflects internal politics in the SEC office screwing over LSU once again, this time in favor of a newcomer -- who LSU bent over backwards to get in the conference in the first place over the skepticism of several schools, including Alabama. Now, I don't expect a whiny tech scrunt to know what's going on right now politically among the SEC office, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, and College Station, but there is a game afoot to provoke animosity between LSU and A&M.

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    While it's a moot point, probably, I disagree that Texas has more to lose. Based upon national perception right now, a UT loss to A&M would be the expected outcome. The only thing that would change would be bragging rights. The recruiting needle would move not one iota because right now A&M is already perceived as the 'it' school where a kid can play in Texas and stand toe-to-toe with the SEC powers. If aggy were to lose to Texas, it would more or less invalidate everything they've accomplished this year. It would lend credence to the argument that A&M's accolades are overinflated due to the overrating of the SEC and that big brother is still big brother.
    it would stop momentum for the aggies but the year they have had would still conclude with a win against bama, a winning record in the SEC and a possible heisman trophy winner. aggies would hate losing to texas of course but a&m would still come into next season as a top 25 team and a solid recruiting class. texas would not suffer extensive damage either from a recruiting standpoint but they would have to endure the notion that a&m's move to the SEC was a better move than texas would have ever anticipated, both from a recruiting standpoint and national recognition perspective. either way, neither team would take the loss very well at all.

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    Losing would suck but an Aggie loss to Texas in the Cotton Bowl after the year Aggie had would cause a mass mourning that would rival the stick pile fail. I'm surprised they'd want to risk it tbh.

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