That's a nice way of saying he's not clutch.
im pretty sure KG put up 5 assists per game or more for 6 straight years and 4 assists per game for 10 straight years on the wolves. he's a very willing passer and an awesome team defender... far from selfish tbh. he even had a season averaging 6 assists per game. for comparison's sake, 6 assists per game would also be a career high for kobe.
i think everyone on this forum knows TD>KG, but lets not say KG is just some guy who was putting up big numbers. best wolves team he ever played with had sprewell and sam cassell, both past their primes. had teams with rasho and sczcerbiak too.
Basically, what I was trying to say is that KG wasn't a ball hog. Mchale also pretty much said that KG isn't clutch in that same interview. I think it was shortly after he traded KG that he gave that interview. He said that if you don't runt he offense through KG he will score about 22 points, if you do run the offense through him he'll still only score about 24 points. He said KG isn't someone like Tim Duncan or Manu Ginobili where you can pass the ball to them in the last 5 minutes of the game and have them carry you to the win. He said KG is not that type of player.
We are not worthy
He might even be responsible for all these superstar teams, if it wasn't for KG leaving Minnesota to have a chance with other hof's, then Lebron might still be in Cleveland. People act like Miami was the first team to do it & forget it was Boston.
Boston was the first to go external for a big three, but we built ours from scratch five years earlier, and they are in their 11th season together. Yet another Spurs creation other feel compelled to copy.We are not worthy
He might even be responsible for all these superstar teams, if it wasn't for KG leaving Minnesota to have a chance with other hof's, then Lebron might still be in Cleveland. People act like Miami was the first team to do it & forget it was Boston.
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Truth.
People hated on Miami for building a team with 3 players who were lottery picks and were already all-stars when signed since they didn't have one guy they could build around and could lead a team on his own. People forget, Boston was the first one who did that with KG, Ray and Pierce.
Sure everyone knew who Duncan was coming out of college, but nobody ever heard of a Tony Parker or an Emanuel Ginobili when this team was put together. Our big three was built from the ground up with a clear leader who has led his team to championships.
What's crazy is that officially, Manu didn't get credit for the block.
2004 in KG's MVP year Timmy dropped 36, 20, and 7 on his ass.
And we would've smoked em had the dreaded .04 never happened.
Its not that comparable, as Allen, Garnett and Pierce were not all in their prime anymore when they united in Boston ... it still was enough to win a championship ...
The Celtics traded for KG and Allen. Lebron and Bosh and Wade were all free agents and colluded to go to the same team.
KG will not make it to 90.
The Spurs build their team through the draft. And that is not necessarily a good thing since it is the only way they build their team. It is much better if a team can use trades, free agency and the draft to build a team. Trades and free agency build championship teams at a quicker rate. Except for an occasional role player addition through trade the Spurs top players are all their draft picks.
Contrary to what media are bit$hing about, I don't see any differences. Just because it's the players, not the owners/managers doing this, then it becomes a bad thing?
If you are a small market team fan or a general NBA fan, and you want to see a balanced league, either way it's marking a bad trend of a few super teams and the remaining washed-up teams. So you need cap, luxury tax or other CBA rules to make it harder to happen --- although the Lakers, Knicks, etc. are not being deterred at all since they can make more money easily.
And more often than not, a super team is made from the Boston way (small-market teams trade their Gasols for potato chips) rather than the Miami way (free agents colluding). So we, as small-market team fans, actually need to be alert about the former more.
You don't see the difference between making trades and free agent signings? The Spurs could have traded for KG and Ray Allen, as could any team that had the right parts to make the trades happen. It's not remotely the same thing. If owners and managers were colluding to get players to a single team, then it would be equally bad. Danny Ainge took some risks and gave up some talent to get those guys back. They were lucky to have Rondo develop the way he did and that guys like Ray Allen committed to defense in order for it to work out.
To be honest, I didn't get what you are trying to say. My point is clear, both Miami way and Boston/Lakers way are BAD to smaller teams like Spurs. But I don't think the Lebron way is worse, unless of course you just hate Lebron the player for whatever reason.
Plus, if using the Spurs as an example, they never get to sign any "popular" free agents. So from a selfish perspective as a Spurs fan, we don't really need to worry about free agents as they'd rather pick Warriors or Clippers over us.
Boston made there "super team" the right way by giving up a good amount of talent for KG (top 5 pick + Al Jeff and other pieces). Lebron and Bosh pussied out from their respective teams in order to ring because they couldn't get it done alone.
There's a right way to making a super team and a wrong way. Teams like Miami and LA that get gold handed to them for virtually nothing are the teams we should be pissed off at.
The right way? If it's Boston Spurs and San Antonio Celtics, don't you think it would be the Spurs who can give some "valuable" assets, to the Wolves for KG? A combination of All-star Ginobili, the rights to Scola & Splitter, and a first round etc, is definitely not worse, if not better than what the Wolves got.
Also, don't ever think the big stars have no say in what they are going even when they are under contracts. Paul and Howard didn't go to their first choice of Lakers and Nets --- the Stern interference or the grudge by the owners toward them --- but if they (and their agents) didn't give blessings to the Clippers and the Lakers, there is no way the trade would ever happen.
So even though those superstars cannot freely decide exactly which team they can go as what Lebron did as a free agent, they can definitely limit their choices to the few big teams they like.
The KG I remember in Minnesota was the guy who, when his team needed a go to guy in the 4th, was quite passive on the offensive end. On the defensive end, he looked a natural. However, on the offensive end, he looked clumsy and awkward, timid, and often shied away from the ball.
Yep. When Kevin McHale traded KG, he basically said that you can't pass the ball the KG in the last 5 minutes of the game and have him win that game for you. He said that you can pass the ball to Tim Duncan or Manu in the last 5 minutes of the game and have them win it for you, but that KG was not that type of player.
Anyone remember a game against the Spurs where Kevin passed the ball to Dean Garrett for the shot to win the game? Dean Garrett missed the shot and the Wolves lost the game. I still have no idea why KG wouldn't take the shot himself.
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