KL Development progress

[Fabbs]

^ Go for 6, Pop.

[Stabula]

last season Stabula? (as i posted i don't want KL #1 but to continue as is why should anyone expect anything different then last years playoffs?) For that matter 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

What about last season? We lost in 6 games in the WCF? Yeah I remember that and it was driven by a few factors. Harden played out of his mind and then shat himself in the NBA finals, Green went ice cold the entire series, and the officiating was horrendous especially in game 6. I wasn't convinced OKC was truly the better team. Everyone expected the Spurs to win it all last year and I'm convinced they still have a good shot at that this year. OKC isn't the same team anymore and if the Spurs go to the WCF again I sincerely doubt that's who they'll be playing.

[Fabbs]

Green went ice cold the entire series,

Was obvious after game 2.
Did the coach make an adjustment? No.

and the officiating was horrendous especially in game 6

It reached Kobe/Laker levels and that's about impossible.
Did the coach say anything? (Not that it would have made a damn bit of difference if Sternie and co. had a predetermined Thunder Finals) but for ___s sake, say something in the media.

[Richie]

Was obvious after game 2.
Did the coach make an adjustment? No.

Why would he make a change after we comfortably won our first 2 games? Once we starting losing Pop did make the change and put Manu in the starting lineup

[Fabbs]

Why would he make a change after we comfortably won our first 2 games? Once we starting losing Pop did make the change and put Manu in the starting lineup

Ya that is true. Plus OKC went into a coma shooting in Game 4.
Plus game 5 it was Neal and Parker who shat the bed, not Green.

[spurraider21]

Are we really complaining that a #15 draft pick isn't already an all-star in his second season? lol.

[PingPong]

Just a good role player. Overrated, so far from being a Kirye Irving tbh.

[benefactor]

So you think a team built around Kawhi and Splitter would be better right now than a team built around Timmy, Tony and Manu?

I believe he's serious...unfortunately...well...as serious as someone who has huffed several hundred gallons of paint can be.

[ChuckD]

no cause i was too busy watchin hero ball,

KL has been overshadowed by players on this team that his not given the opportunity to shine

You're a ing re . Stop posting, now.

You're angry with other players for so called "hero ball", yet that exactly what you're advocating that Kawhi do, and he's less equipped to do so than Manu or Tony.

[cd021]

He's averaging 10pts ,5.5 rpg and hitting 50+% from the field. HE has already proven more valuable than Richard Jefferson at a massive discount ( nearly 10 million less than RJ's current salary) He can develop into a star while being an 5th option. That is the perfect situation for him. He does need to improve his handles and ability to attack off the dribble. Pop may have over hyped his improvement but he is making solid strides.

[timvp]

When TDMVPDPOY and Fabbs agree on something, run -- don't walk -- to the other side of the argument.

[Fabbs]

When TDMVPDPOY and Fabbs agree on something, run -- don't walk -- to the other side of the argument.

I don't know if we we agree on how much KL should be increased but we def agree KL and Splitts should be increased.
The "other side" OTOH, go for six!

[FromWayDowntown]

Wow. This thread has to be one of the Spurs Talk all-timers. What it really needs is a Whitney > Parker sort of tag line.

[aal04]

Star players aside,

NO ONE is getting more love than Kawhi in the NBA, hes a very very very lucky player.

He is playing for the best organization in professional sport in America. And he is getting ALL the attention of the organization.

Every single piece of support from the coaching staff, every single piece of support from his mentor players, and every opportunity from the coach to display and hone those skills.

SAS needs a new franchise player and they know they cant buy one or draft one (TD and Robinson were freakish drafts). They have to develop one. The season TD leaves i bet we will head for a bottom finish in the division.

I just hope Kawhi does well, but atm im only seeing a solid roleplayer. And that isnt a franchise player like we need or hope and pray for.

[timvp]

The "other side" OTOH, go for six!

Which of the previous five seasons did the Spurs have the personnel and injury/ref fortune to be considered the le favorite?

[TDMVPDPOY]

how would u clowns feel if KL pull a derek anderson on us when his contract is up??

i hope he does pull a derek on us...

[Fabbs]

Which of the previous five seasons did the Spurs have the personnel and injury/ref fortune to be considered the le favorite?

2008 Ahead of the Lakers by 20 pts (65-45) 3rd qtr with only 6 minutes left. Coach Numb Nutts pulls Bowen off Kobe. One poster called it the worst coaching decision of CIP Poops career. Also for the game:
Mrs Michael Finley-Pop 22 minutes 0-5. Bob Horry? 5 minutes.
CIA Dipstick completely wastes a 30/18 effort by Duncan.
We in Game 1 yes i say we win the Series.

2009 and beyond "Our roster wasn't good enough".
President of All Things Basketball acquires Jefferson. Then extends Finley, Soft and Bonner.

Laker reffing i concur even a GOAT lineup cannot overcome the fixaroos. 2009 i laid major bank down on the Fakeshow knowing they would be gifted the WWE belt regardless.

[DMC]

KL is the next Bruce Elliott.

[Gutter92]

Wow. This thread. Then again, I guess it's better than last year when TDMVPDPOY posted repeatedly about how he wanted Duncan to retire to make room for Splitter the Second Coming.

[TDMVPDPOY]

2008 Ahead of the Lakers by 20 pts (65-45) 3rd qtr with only 6 minutes left. Coach Numb Nutts pulls Bowen off Kobe. One poster called it the worst coaching decision of CIP Poops career. Also for the game:
Mrs Michael Finley-Pop 22 minutes 0-5. Bob Horry? 5 minutes.
CIA Dipstick completely wastes a 30/18 effort by Duncan.
We in Game 1 yes i say we win the Series.

2009 and beyond "Our roster wasn't good enough".
President of All Things Basketball acquires Jefferson. Then extends Finley, Soft and Bonner.

Laker reffing i concur even a GOAT lineup cannot overcome the fixaroos. 2009 i laid major bank down on the Fakeshow knowing they would be gifted the WWE belt regardless.

what pissed me of is pop not playin his rookies, when they shown during the regular season they could held their own when given the opportunity
ghill rookie season in the playoffs didnt get the opportunity when he held his own in the regular season
splitter same situation
instead opt for tosb who couldnt defend for ...

those series losses were all winnable or at leasts given them teams a run for their money, instead waving the white flag bending over receiving it like a man...

[timvp]

2009 and beyond "Our roster wasn't good enough".

Add in Manu's injury in 2008 and Fabbs just admitted his whining is baseless, tbh.

[Fabbs]

Add in Manu's injury in 2008 and Fabbs just admitted his whining is baseless, tbh.

naw your defense mechanisms are just up.
2008 it was super obvious Manu was injured.
Instead of going to available and ready Brent Barrdog, Coach Numb Nutts tries to milk GNob and he sucks on O and D. Duh, he was operating at 55%.
Barrdog responds with 23/5/5 on only 14 shots. Altho he fails to jump into DeReek Swisher to get the game winning FTAs.
Point being, CIA No Adjustments boggled two games away with 55% GNob. Ya i know Ginobili had one good game. Big deal, he was obviously injured.
So was it our roster or Coach Numb Nutts? Oh yeah Mike Finley with 9 minutes of all zeros and his usual matador defense.

[therealtruth]

Truth bomb.
KL does not have to be the #1 option, not what TDM is saying.
But you *Big 3* geezers need to give it a rest. They're not "big" anymore. Occasionally absolutely. Consistently? Ain't happened since 2007.
Balanced approach would be to slide more minutes and shots to KL and Splittsville. Not make them #1 and #2, just give them more. Proven they can handle it.

CIA Pooped had a very nice approach last season then crapped the bed when it took some real coaching vs OKC. On his way, has 5 already on the way to 6.
Embrace change or get ready for #6.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...highlight=2008

I agree especially when the big 3 can't even play big minutes anymore. If we could have kept Parker, Duncan, and Ginobili on the floor for 40+ minutes and have them still play at a high level we probably beat OKC.

[Mel_13]

[ChumpDumper]

Time to blow up the team and usher in the Splitter/Leonard era.

Multiple O'Briens to follow.