Cotton Bowl thread: UT v A&M?

[Kermit]

Case just got the start. This program has become a partial birth abortion.

[coyotes_geek]

We're going capital one IMO

Nah. CapOne is going to take the loser of the SEC-CG.

[Homeland Security]

Nah. CapOne is going to take the loser of the SEC-CG.

You'd be surprised how impressed they are with A&M.

Projections:
BCS CG: Alabama
Sugar: Florida
Cap 1: A&M
Cotton: LSU
Outback: Georgia
Chick-Fil-A: South Carolina
Gator: Mississippi State
Music City: Vanderbilt
Compass: Ole Miss

[benefactor]

Case just got the start. This program has become a partial birth abortion.

Federal Pound You in the Ass Prison here we come.

[Homeland Security]

Big 12 Projections:

These are complicated by the very real chance that Kent State gets an automatic BCS bid and bumps Oklahoma out of an-large bid. If Stanford beats UCLA and Kent St. beats NIU, that will probably happen. Keep in mind this is a Kent St. team that lost 47-14 to a dumpster fire of a Kentucky team in its only game against compe ion from a real conference. Hopefully poll voters will intervene to maintain sanity.

But if insanity prevails:

Fiesta: Kansas State
Cotton: Oklahoma
Alamo: Texas
Buffalo Wild Wings: Oklahoma State
Holiday: TCU
Meineke Car Care: Texas Tech
Pinstripe: West By God Virginia
Heart of Dallas: Baylor

If sanity prevails, move everybody except Baylor up a spot and plug Iowa St. into the Pinstripe Bowl.

[coyotes_geek]

You'd be surprised how impressed they are with A&M.

Projections:
BCS CG: Alabama
Sugar: Florida
Cap 1: A&M
Cotton: LSU
Outback: Georgia
Chick-Fil-A: South Carolina
Gator: Mississippi State
Music City: Vanderbilt
Compass: Ole Miss

No complaints from me if that's how it works out.

[Homeland Security]

Vandy probably deserves the Gator nod over MSU on merit, but that's not how these things work.

[coyotes_geek]

Big 12 Projections:

These are complicated by the very real chance that Kent State gets an automatic BCS bid and bumps Oklahoma out of an-large bid. If Stanford beats UCLA and Kent St. beats NIU, that will probably happen. Keep in mind this is a Kent St. team that lost 47-14 to a dumpster fire of a Kentucky team in its only game against compe ion from a real conference. Hopefully poll voters will intervene to maintain sanity.

Even if Kent State loses to NIU there's still a chance that NIU gets into the BCS. NIU only needs to move up 5 spots to get into the top 16. NIU beating Kent St, Stanford beating UCLA and K-state beating Texas would take out three of them.

[Homeland Security]

Even if Kent State loses to NIU there's still a chance that NIU gets into the BCS. NIU only needs to move up 5 spots to get into the top 16. NIU beating Kent St, Stanford beating UCLA and K-state beating Texas would take out three of them.

Michigan's regular season is done; tough to see how they would drop below NIU given that three of their four losses are to three of the top four teams in the AP poll, and the fourth is to the likely conference champion.

Boise State would be a likelier pick to move up. They'd need the three contingencies you mentioned plus TCU beating OU.

[Pelicans78]

Vandy probably deserves the Gator nod over MSU on merit, but that's not how these things work.

I totally agree. Vandy's a much better team than MSU. Better conference record and same overall record despite being tougher out of conference.

[Homeland Security]

I totally agree. Vandy's a much better team than MSU. Better conference record and same overall record despite being tougher out of conference.

UT is going to try to pry Franklin away but I don't think they will succeed. Vandy will pay what they need to pay to keep him.

[the chronic]

Nah. CapOne is going to take the loser of the SEC-CG.

If Georgia loses SEC champ, CapOne will pass and take Ags for certain.

Doubtful they pass on Bama if they lose though - which is probably only scenario Texas plays Ags.

[DesignatedT]

Just now on Texags radio, the cotton bowl chairman essentially gave a "no comment" when asked whether Texas is trying to convince the bowl not to take us. They had the Cap1 chairman on yesterday and it sounded like they really wanted A&M. I agree with chronic though, if Bama wins this weekend than A&M is going Cap1 for sure. If Georgia wins then it could become interesting.

[DesignatedT]

Stewart MandelVerified
‏@slmandel
I will be posting revised Bowl Projections later today. Main change: No Texas-Texas A&M Cotton Bowl. Not happening.

[TFloss32]

Brett McMurphy
Not official until Sunday, but Johnny Football's going to Disney World. Capital One Bowl will pick Texas A&M

Capital One would be RUH s not to pick A&M over the loser of the SEC championship. Specifically if it's Georgia.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Sons, Sumlin and Kingsbury are bright coaches. But without the incredible play of Manziel this year, that is a 5-5 team and Sumlin and Kingsbury are looking quite average.

[DesignatedT]

Yeah looks like Cap1 is going A&M regardless of the outcome of SECCG.

[Fpoonsie]

Sons, Sumlin and Kingsbury are bright coaches. But without the incredible play of Manziel this year, that is a 5-5 team and Sumlin and Kingsbury are looking quite average.

oh.

[TFloss32]

Sons, Sumlin and Kingsbury are bright coaches. But without the incredible play of Manziel this year, that is a 5-5 team and Sumlin and Kingsbury are looking quite average.

Manziel has obviously been a huge factor but I think another big reason for their success is the weakest part of the team (the secondary) not having to do much of anything on a consistent basis. They played one great passing team all year (Louisiana Tech, #4 in passing offense) and were exposed in dramatic fashion for 450 yards through the air and almost lost the game. And I know turnovers were a factor, but they also gave up 300+ to Ole Miss and barely won that one.

If you look at passing offense and exclude Arkansas at #22, you have to get into the 50 range to find anyone on their conference schedule (Ole Miss at #48 and Mississippi State at #50). Nobody sniffs the Top 50 after that. Revert back to their old conference schedule and you have #2 (Texas Tech), #3 (Baylor), #5 (OU), #7 (OK State) and #44 (Texas). Did they switch conferences at the perfect time? They could have very well won the Big XII this year with a dynamic player such as Manziel but it's a factor that was tough to ignore.

[stretch]

Manziel has obviously been a huge factor but I think another big reason for their success is the weakest part of the team (the secondary) not having to do much of anything on a consistent basis. They played one great passing team all year (Louisiana Tech, #4 in passing offense) and were exposed in dramatic fashion for 450 yards through the air and almost lost the game. And I know turnovers were a factor, but they also gave up 300+ to Ole Miss and barely won that one.

If you look at passing offense and exclude Arkansas at #22, you have to get into the 50 range to find anyone on their conference schedule (Ole Miss at #48 and Mississippi State at #50). Nobody sniffs the Top 50 after that. Revert back to their old conference schedule and you have #2 (Texas Tech), #3 (Baylor), #5 (OU), #7 (OK State) and #44 (Texas). Did they switch conferences at the perfect time? They could have very well won the Big XII this year with a dynamic player such as Manziel but it's a factor that was tough to ignore.

Well put.

[TFloss32]

Forgot West Virginia at #6.

[TFloss32]

Well put.

I was hoping A&M would draw another team with a great passing offense but it looks like they'll get a Big 10 team in the Capital One. One team in that conference in Top 50 passing and that's Indiana (#17). Aggies should destroy Michigan.

[coyotes_geek]

Sons, Sumlin and Kingsbury are bright coaches. But without the incredible play of Manziel this year, that is a 5-5 team and Sumlin and Kingsbury are looking quite average.

It is pretty fascinating how teams wouldn't be as good without their best player.........

[symple19]

Now, what are the defensive rankings of Big 12 schools?

[TFloss32]

Now, what are the defensive rankings of Big 12 schools?

Good point. It's definitely not always easy to determine where a great passing team begins and where a ty defense picks up.

Big XII actually has four teams (including Texas) in the Top 50 for passing defense. Better than I thought.