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    still better than a fat ass flopper





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    He just had Novak on him and air balled a layup..

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    teams built around PGs are genuinely screwd up in the first place. deron is not overrated and he's at least a top 5 at this position w/o a doubt, it's not jsut him that has been playing bad, the whole team has been performing well below expectation. they got some nice players but it seems they've yet to figure out a way to win. and the team is not that good in terms of talents as people think they are, JJ has been playing like garbage and the 7'0 white got can't rebound for , so the whole team is still pretty much on deron's shoulder like it always was

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    clipper nation talking about flopping

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    Continuing to watch him play not only is he shooting poorly, but he's scared to shoot. He will routinely pass up good looks and one's he does shoot he hesitates and his shot is flatter than ever with no touch.

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    just wishes he was playing with Kobe and Dwight..he'll get over it

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    lol that auto-flopping off da chain

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    Shooting 29% from three yet continues to chuck it up. Avery Johnson doesnt have the balls to tell him to STOP SHOOTING THREE POINTERS!!

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    Avery Johnson doesnt have the balls to tell him to STOP SHOOTING THREE POINTERS!!
    He's the one making DWill shoot the ugly three-pointers, since he insists on using him as basically a shooting guard.... his offense really sucks and is boring to watch, tbh...

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    M Willims outplayed DWill tonight

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    The really alarming thing is his fall off in defense and assists. He's playing with a lot of solid talent and while his shot is off, no excuse to get burned on defense and also have inconsistent assists.

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    Who?

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    4 mil OJ Mayo>>18 mil DWill

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    Dayum

    http://www.nj.com/ledger-dalessandro...too_tight.html

    We heard you blame your troubles on coach Avery Johnson, and pine for the days when that wise old crank in Utah ran stuff that was better suited to your individual skills.

    Trust us: The national response was raucous laughter, because you were the guy responsible for getting Jerry Sloan to decide after 27 years that he’d rather live with his 30 tractors in McLeansboro, Ill., than put up with your insubordination.

    Now you say Sloan was best for your career, not to mention the $100 million contract that validates it? That’s rich. Sure, revisionist history was worth a shot, but our only takeaway was more sympathy for Avery. He’s done what he had to do with this offense: Establish Brook Lopez, get Joe Johnson acclimated quickly, and whatever sugar remains goes to Deron and Gerald Wallace.

    Whether the point guard likes it or not is irrelevant. You make it work. You lead.

    And when you miss game-winning shots against the Bulls and Knicks, with no defender in the same ZIP code, you blame yourself — period.

    Of course, the lack of accountability is also management’s fault. We recall those stories about you finishing practice and heading up to Billy King’s office to plop yourself on the couch — where even the new boss chuckled along when you called yourself “the assistant GM.” Haw!

    But if you understand the GM-player relationship, you know this is a problem. Because with the exception of one guy in San Antonio, no player should have this kind of en lement. Not even LeBron James, who once prided himself on his ability to hold a franchise hostage, would presume to have this kind of influence.

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    I wonder if emo Deron will get this guy fired. This is a pretty scathing article for a beat writer to write about the team's star player.

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    NBA scores: The Nets lose again, and Deron Williams is part of the problem

    By Mike Prada on Dec 20, 9:46a 1
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    The Nets lost again, and Deron Williams is getting some justified criticism. Also, the Kings and Warriors play a classic out West, and the Thunder needed just two players to beat the Hawks.
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    Knicks 100, Nets 86
    First, a few words on the Knicks: they are in an awesome rhythm right now and have become impossible to stop because of their three-point shooting and the threat of Tyson Chandler rolling to the rim. This Carmelo Anthony guy is also pretty good. These have been a few words on the Knicks.
    Now, let's talk about the Nets, like many people are. On some level, I'm not inclined to panic about this team's recent struggles. We forget how many new players the team has. More importantly, we forget how many players they have who are used to the plays being structured for them rather than having to work off other stars. The Nets' offense now is a weird amalgam of Jerry Sloan-style Flex action (Williams' old offense), Horns sets (where the two big men initiate the offense from the elbow), Hawks-style baseline screens, guard-guard picks (Joe Johnson's offense), standard high-pick-and-rolls and shuffle cuts to free up Brook Lopez. It's as if they are running many different offensive systems, each tailored to one of their stars.
    I'm inclined to believe that element of the Nets' struggles will be solved with time. Already, you see them having some success with several of those set plays. That'll only continue as they learn how to play with each other and unlearn bad habits they developed in losing situations (for all the holdover Nets) or settings where they had free reign to break plays (Johnson). I also think that they'll eventually develop some more trust for each other where they aren't breaking plays to play hero-ball, like they did in the third quarter against the Knicks.
    But I also think there are some scary issues. One is the defense, but few actually expected Brooklyn to be good on that end. The more concerning and surprising issues go back to Williams himself. For a supposed elite point guard, Williams has a really poor understanding of pace and personnel. He's supremely talented and versatile, but his decision-making and shot-selection were really poor in that third quarter and have been all season.
    One issue Williams has is a tendency to get sloppy in transition. Here's one play in the third quarter where he committed a turnover.


    There are a lot of numbers here, so let me explain. This is a situation where the Knicks have missed a shot and the Nets grabbed a defensive rebound. Williams has the ball on the right wing. The yellow numbers refer to the Knicks players who are behind the ball (Ronnie Brewer excepted). The Nets numbers are in order of which guys are furthest into the frountcourt. As you can see, the Knicks have four bodies back to prevent any sort of fast break. The efficient play is to pull this out and run your half-court offense. Instead, Williams tries to drive around Felton and loses the ball out of bounds.
    Here's another transition situation where the Nets actually got a good shot, but it wasn't the right play.

    This is what the screen looks like right after a Nets defensive rebound. All five Nets players are still on the wrong side of half-court, while the fifth Knick not pictured is already back. Let's roll the tape a bit further.

    Once again, the Knicks have four players behind the ball. Trying to get a quick shot in this situation is not smart, especially because the tide of the game is starting to turn. Instead, Williams tries to set up the man behind him, Keith Bogans, for an open three. If that were Paul Pierce, Klay Thompson, Stephen Curry or, , even Joe Johnson, the logic would make some sense. But it's Keith Bogans.

    This isn't a bad shot on its surface, because Bogans is a pretty good three-point shooter, but the timing is bad. It's a home-run play, and the Nets' half-court offense is too dangerous on paper to go for too many home-run plays. If Bogans misses, the Nets have no rebounders to grab the carom. Williams simply has to be more patient than to rush for this shot.
    Throw in all the poor shots, and the criticism of Williams is deserved. He has all the skills, but has lost his grasp on the sense of timing. In many ways, he's discovering that increased freedom has actually detracted from his game. At this point, Williams has to accept that being reigned in a bit will make him and his team better.

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    Cuban looking like a genius..... per the usual.

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    Better question: what's wrong with CP0? D-Will is undefeated in the playoffs (so far).

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    Better question: what's wrong with CP0? D-Will is undefeated in the playoffs (so far).
    Hey Armando - what's wrong with Lance "The X-Factor" Stephenson? Getting owned at home by an under .500 team? SMH

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    Hey Armando - what's wrong with Lance "The X-Factor" Stephenson? Getting owned at home by an under .500 team? SMH
    - he did his part. More made FGs than PG. Too bad Bird won't be able to outbid Fredo for his services this summer.

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    - he did his part. More made FGs than PG. Too bad Bird won't be able to outbid Fredo for his services this summer.
    Stephenson and Swaggy P?

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