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    "The White House is considering a plan to leave around 10,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan after 2014, The Wall Street Journal reports. According to the report, Gen. John Allen, the commander of U.S. and international forces in Afghanistan, has proposed to keep between 6,000 and 15,000 U.S. troops in the country following the end of combat operations in 2014."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2191929.html

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    Another conspiracy!

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    CC, trying to dismiss you being called out for inserting what you want to be true for what is true with pictures of dog penis speaks to you and your credibility more than it does of Chump's. You and WC are two peas in a pod in that regard and only a step away from truthers.

    The world is as it is and now how you want it to be. Hidden mercenaries? gmfb

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    Pulling out rarely means pulling out all troops, full stop. It just means the great majority.

    And I thought conservatives/Republicans hated timelines, and thought they were a horrible thing? Remember all the "If we have a timeline, the terrorists will just wait us out!" Where did all that go?

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    Pulling out rarely means pulling out all troops, full stop. It just means the great majority.

    And I thought conservatives/Republicans hated timelines, and thought they were a horrible thing? Remember all the "If we have a timeline, the terrorists will just wait us out!" Where did all that go?
    I don't want to be there at all. If it was my decision I'd tell Karzai "adios mutha er" and get the out tomorrow.

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    CC, trying to dismiss you being called out for inserting what you want to be true for what is true with pictures of dog penis speaks to you and your credibility more than it does of Chump's. You and WC are two peas in a pod in that regard and only a step away from truthers.

    The world is as it is and now how you want it to be. Hidden mercenaries? gmfb
    Been living under a rock, head? It's common knowledge reported in multiple legitimate media sites that troops in Iraq were replaced by private mercenaries hired by the State Department. Among other things they provide security for the Green Zone in Baghdad.

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    Aw, a picture of you on Obama's pant leg.

    Cute!

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    House GOP Leaders Block Amendment Solidifying Afghanistan Withdrawal Timeline (click for link)

    Republicans seem to think he has a timeline.

    Hope that is context-y enough for you.
    LOL...

    In the defense bill...

    LOL...

    What else did it include?

    A SOFA is an agreement between two countries. Not part of a defense bill!

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    State department admits to having almost 6000 mercs in Iraq. No telling how many more are hidden as "private contractors".
    Interesting. Went digging and found this:
    http://www.thenation.com/blog/37877/...ry-force-iraq#

    The State Department is asking Congress to approve funds to more than double the number of private security contractors in Iraq with a State Department official testifying in June at a hearing of the Wartime Contracting Commission that the Department wants "between 6,000 and 7,000 security contractors." The Department also has asked the Pentagon for twenty-four Blackhawk helicopters, fifty Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected (MRAP) vehicles and other military equipment. "After the departure of U.S. Forces [from Iraq], we will continue to have a critical need for logistical and life support of a magnitude and scale of complexity that is unprecedented in the history of the Department of State," wrote Patrick Kennedy, under secretary of state for management, in an April letter to the Pentagon. "And to keep our people secure, Diplomatic Security requires certain items of equipment that are only available from the military."

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    What is unfolding is the face of President Obama's scaled-down, rebranded mini-occupation of Iraq. Under the terms of the Status of Forces agreement, all US forces are supposed to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011. Using private forces is a backdoor way of continuing a substantial US presence under the cover of "diplomatic security."
    Sounds like an expensive way of buying influence, and keeping Iraq from devolving into a civil war.

    Probably better than paying higher oil prices, and a ready made counter to Iranian influence. (we appear to be keeping some bases there)

    Wonder how much this Bush-era boondoggle is going to contribute to the national debt in the next 10 years?

    Iraq: the Republican gift that keeps on giving. :^/

    I shudder to think of the VA costs for the rest of my life incurred because of Iraq. Caring for PTSD, TBI, and other injuries for a lifetime is big $$$$.

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    Hillary is just a bigger war machine than we thought.

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    LOL...

    In the defense bill...

    LOL...

    What else did it include?

    A SOFA is an agreement between two countries. Not part of a defense bill!
    You said, or at least seemed to imply, Obama didn't have a "timeline". to paraphrase:

    "You said Obama had a timeline, what bull "

    I provided something that seems to conclusively prove that statement to be incorrect.

    Whether it is a hard and fast timeline, or not is another matter. Is that what you were trying to get at?

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    You said, or at least seemed to imply, Obama didn't have a "timeline". to paraphrase:

    "You said Obama had a timeline, what bull "

    I provided something that seems to conclusively prove that statement to be incorrect.

    Whether it is a hard and fast timeline, or not is another matter. Is that what you were trying to get at?
    What is reported as a timeline for Obama is as meaningless as saying now, what you plan to have for breakfast 3 years from now. It will change with other factors.

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    What is reported as a timeline for Obama is as meaningless as saying now, what you plan to have for breakfast 3 years from now. It will change with other factors.
    Gotcha. You should be clearer than. Saying "he has no timeline at all" is quite different than saying "he isn't serious about his timeline".

    So you seem to think that any withdrawal should be independent of ground cir stances at the time?

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    Been living under a rock, head? It's common knowledge reported in multiple legitimate media sites that troops in Iraq were replaced by private mercenaries hired by the State Department. Among other things they provide security for the Green Zone in Baghdad.
    That's not the conspiracy. What you are clming is that the DoD is hiring mercenaries and not disclosing them. You said:

    No telling how many more are hidden as "private contractors".
    You really do suck at critical thinking. Is that age or are you just stupid? And note when i call you stupid, i do it after describing how you failed to understand what should have been a simple concept that you yourself stated.

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    That's not the conspiracy. What you are clming is that the DoD is hiring mercenaries and not disclosing them. You said:



    You really do suck at critical thinking. Is that age or are you just stupid? And note when i call you stupid, i do it after describing how you failed to understand what should have been a simple concept that you yourself stated.
    LOL @ YOU calling ME stupid, loser...

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    Fuzzy just doesn't know when to stop. He's so stupid, he doesn't know when he loses.

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    He's so stupid, he doesn't know when he loses.
    Kinda sounds like this one dude I know, here's how it usually goes with him:

    Racist old stupid : "something extremely stupid"

    Someone:"no, that's is not true. What you just said is extremely stupid."

    Racist old stupid : " no, I didn't actually say that, you just completely misunderstood me! you need to understand what I meant, not what I actually wrote"

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    Can't we just agree that Obama is a neo-con on foreign policy?

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    Can't we just agree that Obama is a neo-con on foreign policy?
    You mean a Johnson democrat?

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    You mean a Johnson democrat?
    He means a Republican.

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    He means a Republican.
    What was Johnson's foreign policy? Obama seems closer to Johnson than any republican I can think of.

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    What was Johnson's foreign policy? Obama seems closer to Johnson than any republican I can think of.
    Don't worry about it. You have an incredibly biased memory.

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    I see you have them in the crushing grip of reason.

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    LOL @ YOU calling ME stupid, loser...
    You should be proud. In all of this, you have WC supporting you. Certainly lend credibility don't you think?

    We have been through this before. If you are going to claim that I am stupid then you need to provide supporting arguments. What you are doing right now is masturbation because any lay person that comes by and reads the diatribe will see no basis for your claim. It has the opposite effect you want as it hearkens to middle schoolers mindlessly bashing.

    Refer back to my breaking down how to read sentences and the meaning of adverbs like 'sometimes' and your failure to do so. From that I point to your inability to perform on an 8th grade reading level --and that is not hyperbole-- as to why you lack intelligence. When people read that they can see your failure at basic reading skills. See how that works?

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