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Where did they live that they paid no school taxes. Even apartment renters pay school tax indirectly through their rent. Even if they lived with 10 people in one rental house, they still were paying school tax.
tbh, every time they muck around with immigration law, they make it an even worse spaghetti... that was partially the reason for me to go ahead an get citizenship while I could under the current rules.
Where did they live that they paid no school taxes. Even apartment renters pay school tax indirectly through their rent. Even if they lived with 10 people in one rental house, they still were paying school tax.
Expecting people to follow our laws is xenophobic now?
Amnesty for illegal immigrates is supported by sellouts of this nation.
while illgals gnaw at the US welfare and they don't deserve it, i dont see no reason why the "legal" immigrants do tbh. legal immigrants take even more welfare from the government even though there number isn't as extravagant as illegal aliens. they do pay taxes but you can't buy citizenships. the illegals would be willing to pay more if they could get legal status in exchange. these people are shameless and they come to this country for the only purpose of the welfare & freedom that the US government grants them, no matter if they're legal or illegal. if you wanna get rid of illegal immigrants you have to expel them all, they're all the same shameless ing maggots and shouldn't be treated differently tbh
"illgals gnaw at the US welfare and they don't deserve it"
but what about American citizens, aka Randian moochers/takers, impoverished by the Banksters' Great Depression? you have the same "don't deserve welfare" position towards them?
Do you have any equivalent (to your xenophobia) negative position, towards THE REAL PROBLEMS of the criminal, corrupt financial sector and the United Corporations of America?
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What does this even mean?
Sellout = race traitor
I have explained my several points of opposition before to this type of amnesty. The only amnesty I will accept is amnesty that isn't even discussed until after the borders are secure. One of my reasons is talk of it becomes a magnet for those who want to be here before any cut-off date in proposed legislation.
"after the borders are secure"
agreed, but how many $10Bs to initialize that secured border, and how many $Bs annually are you prepared to spend in perpetuity maintaining it. we already handed Boeing IIRC $5B+ for a totally failed, partial system
Sure, that's reasonable. What's not reasonable was your comment that anyone who disagrees with you with amnesty is a "sellout".
Consider what the context of talking about amnesty does today.
It brings in tax revenue that wouldn't otherwise, at the cost of these people getting Medicaid/Social Security/Welfare etc. Though one could argue that because these people don't have these programs, they're more likely to use emergency rooms, commit crimes, etc etc as well.
I don't think it's as easy as you make it out to be.
"It brings in tax revenue that wouldn't otherwise"
Not much income tax, because probably 95%+ are in Bishop Gecko's 47%.
But if they finally became legal payroll employees paying SS/Medicare (rather than underpaid/unpaid black employees of criminal employers), then that payroll revenue would help.
And getting paid fully would probably have them spending more (sales tax, property tax).
Depends. Just poking certain touchy types for fun.Expecting people to follow our laws is xenophobic now?
It would certainly broaden the tax base.
Amnesty that brings a lot of workers into the pool, plus a solid crackdown on employers that still employ any leftover illegals would add quite a bit of revenues.
I would point out they are going to be there anyway. Not giving them a solid path to legality is leaving money on the table.
WTF...
How many of these people make a big enough wage to pay federal income tax? I say few if any. They might not even pay state taxes. Your saying they will contribute can only be because so many work under the table and don't pay SS/medicare. Say all you want about that angle, but they are taking away jobs from citizens who would pay the SS and medicare insurance anyway.
This is a big point. But WC and wanna be Canadian boy are in the weeds. People make big money off illegal immigration because they can get away with it, and knowingly everyone else over.
Property taxes are big in TX partly because they fund County and Local hospitals.
When the illegal labor pool dries up, It will only be outsourced more. And you can bet the farm, specifically conservatives won´t be running for those jobs. As I´ve said, a significant amount of them come from families who´ve avoided labor since slavery.
WTF...
Just crack down on employers now. The illegals will self deport.
ElNono, you laugh but it's true. The feds have already set up e-verify so it's simple for an employer to check immigration status on a new employee. Make the penalties tough enough and employers will quit hiring undo ented workers. They could shut town the underground/untaxed economy if they wanted to. First offense for hiring illegals a week in jail and $10,000.fine for the boss. Second offense a month in jail and $50,000 fine. Third offense 2 years and $100,000 fine for the boss. For a big corporation the penalty is for the guy that hired the illegal AND the CEO. Enforce it very publicly.
The other thing they would have to do is use e-verify to qualify for public benefits...no lone star card, now WIC, no nothing without clearing e-verify.
You REALLY think that wouldn't kill the job market for illegals? If there are no jobs and no benefits, why come?
Two problems with that CC:
1) do you really think a law punishing CEOs would get through Congress? And even if they pass the law, will it actually be enforced? I don't think there's enough "want" to stop immigration that badly.
2) there will always be "under the table" jobs. Whether its Craigslist, picking produce, etc etc there are always people willing to pay others cash out of hand, and unless its a big company I don't know if LE would/should take the time to process those kinds of cases
So why sweeten the pot for the offenders by offering amnesty?
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