Page 15 of 16 FirstFirst ... 5111213141516 LastLast
Results 351 to 375 of 376
  1. #351
    Esse quam videri ploto's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    10,994
    If you consistently push the narrative that this is never the case, when it is obvious to enough people that is exactly the case, you start to lose credibility. That makes you weak as a national party. I think people sense this at some level, for all the flaws of the Democratic party, the Republicans can't offer a viable alternative.
    It has been said that those who actually like government should probably be the ones who run it.

  2. #352
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    113,923

  3. #353
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    "the permanent decline that now seems inevitable."



    Blind political ideology, like blind religious ideology, makes you stupid.

  4. #354
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    Epistemic closure....exactly.

    and thanks for the irony, bot.

  5. #355
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    It has been said that those who actually like government should probably be the ones who run it.
    I don't think "like" is best term. about "admit and respect govt's roles in a nation" and who commit making those roles operate as effectively and efficiently as possible.

    in contrast, for Repugs, "govt IS the problem" so govt must be hobbled and/or destroyed, so when in power, Repugs are committed to misgovern thoroughly, self-fulfilling their philosophy that govt is the problem. In reality, REPUG govt is the problem

  6. #356
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    Epistemic closure....exactly.

    and thanks for the irony, bot.
    TB! GFY,

  7. #357
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321

  8. #358
    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Clippers
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Post Count
    54,257
    Boutons_ with the bads per par...

    Government in and of itself is not the problem... the problem is the corrupt people IN the government and that we're attempting to handle everything at once in Washington.... statists can try to deny it, but it's just a fact that different states have different needs and not every problem has a one-size-fits-all solution....

  9. #359
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    "just a fact that different states have different needs"

    bull

    all states need their roads, bridges, dams, electrical grids, healthy water/lands maintained.

    all states need reasonably priced, universal no-profit insurance and universal no-profit health care.

  10. #360
    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Clippers
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Post Count
    54,257
    "But, but, everybody needs my talking points because the TV said so!"

  11. #361
    Linger Ficking Good! CuckingFunt's Avatar
    My Team
    Sacramento Kings
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    22,076
    Blind political ideology, like blind religious ideology, makes you stupid.
    *giggle*

  12. #362
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    51,121
    The day after the article appeared, my boss called to chew me out, saying that Karl Rove had called him personally to complain about it. I promised to be more cir spect in the future.

    Interestingly, a couple of days after the Suskind article appeared, I happened to be at a reception for some right-wing organization that many of my think tank friends were also attending. I assumed I would get a lot of grief for my comments in the Suskind article and was surprised when there was none at all.

    Finally, I started asking people about it. Not one person had read it or cared in the slightest what the New York Times had to say about anything. They all viewed it as having as much credibility as Pravda and a similar political philosophy as well. Some were indignant that I would even suspect them of reading a left-wing rag such as the New York Times.

    I was flabbergasted. Until that moment I had not realized how closed the right-wing mind had become. Even assuming that my friends’ view of the Times’ philosophy was correct, which it most certainly was not, why would they not want to know what their enemy was thinking? This was my first exposure to what has been called “epistemic closure” among conservatives—living in their own bubble where nonsensical ideas circulate with no contradiction.
    Pretty long article, but highly damning.

    After careful research ... I came to the annoying conclusion that Keynes had been 100 percent right in the 1930s. Previously, I had thought the opposite. But facts were facts and there was no denying my conclusion. It didn’t affect the argument in my book, which was only about the rise and fall of ideas. The fact that Keynesian ideas were correct as well as popular simply made my thesis stronger.

    I finished the book just as the economy was collapsing in the fall of 2008. This created another intellectual crisis for me. Having just finished a careful study of the 1930s, it was immediately obvious to me that the economy was suffering from the very same problem, a lack of aggregate demand. We needed Keynesian policies again, which completely ruined my nice rise-and-fall thesis. Keynesian ideas had arisen from the intellectual grave.

    The book needed to be rethought and rewritten from scratch in light of new developments. Unfortunately, my publisher insisted on publishing it on schedule. I tried to repair the damage as best I could, but in the end the book was a mishmash of competing ideas with no clear narrative. It sold poorly.
    I am disinclined to think that Republicans are yet ready for a serious questioning of their philosophy or strategy. They comfort themselves with the fact that they held the House (due to gerrymandering) and think that just improving their get-out-the-vote system and throwing a few bones to the Latino community will fix their problem. There appears to be no recognition that their defects are far, far deeper and will require serious introspection and rethinking of how Republicans can win going forward. The alternative is permanent loss of the White House and probably the Senate as well, which means they can only temporarily block Democratic initiatives and never advance their own.

    I’ve paid a heavy price, both personal and financial, for my evolution from comfortably within the Republican Party and conservative movement to a less than comfortable position somewhere on the center-left. Honest to God, I am not a liberal or a Democrat. But these days, they are the only people who will listen to me. When Republicans and conservatives once again start asking my opinion, I will know they are on the road to recovery.

    Bruce Bartlett is the author of The Benefit and the Burden: Tax Reform—Why We Need It and What It Will Take.

  13. #363
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    Vitamin I does that to you.

  14. #364
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    51,121
    I'll address only this point (because I have to go back to the office and don't have the time to go ad infinitum on these rehashed disagreements)...

    This is another case of you not understanding the context of the nomenclature/parsings used in the bible. The statement "they [children] belong to Him" was made in reference to the doctrine that children are spared from when they pass on to the next life (despite their sins). You took it to mean something else, but that is all I was trying to convey... "Children belong to the LORD" i.e. children ALL end up in heaven, in GOD's embrace, because of GOD's grace and mercy (again, despite their sin). If GOD allowed the children of wicked societies to grow up, and acquire the knowledge of good and evil, then given the rampant evil in their societies, they would more than likely choose to be wicked themselves. Once at an age of accountability they would be held accountable for their actions and judged according to the Law (which would more than likely mean a life of eternal separation from GOD - i.e. ). That being the case, the point I was ultimately making was that while you all have chosen to scorn GOD for exacting his perfect justice, He was actually saving lives by cutting off such perverse socities.

    I think the problem here is that you all tend to view life (our mortal time here on earth) as "all there is and all there ever will be"... While yes, our physical bodies are frail and finite our spirits will live on for eternity. Death is only the passage to that other life and not "the end all of everything". I figure the majority of you all do not believe in an afterlife which is why that concept runs contrary to your very beliefs. Furthermore, Blake's snarky statement that mockingly asked "why GOD would not provide a path for salvation sooner" is rendered moot in that light, because ultimately what's a few thousand years in the context of eternity? Zilch. Nada. Nothing more than an asymtotic approach to zero... The fact of the matter is that most of those people were given ample opportunities to repent of their wickedness, and ultimately had to face the ramifications for their choice not to repent. Under the New Covenant, entire generations have been presented with the redeeming gift of eternal life that was paid for on the cross by Jesus atonement for our sins. Millions over the course of the last 2 millenia have chosen to reject this offer and will be "cut off" as well. Heck, the majority of those in this forum (who relentlessly go out of their way to mock Christianity) have brazenly opted to walk down that road...
    Your kind of Christianity, especially apologists who are trying to paper over pure evil, and defend the indefensible deserves mocking.

    Tell me, if your God decided that he wanted to you slaughter children what would be the best way to deliver this ultimate good to them?



    Your God ordered people to kill children, and you defend that here. I find that more than a little morally replulsive.

  15. #365
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    lol...where you been, RG?
    Last edited by TeyshaBlue; 12-21-2012 at 02:36 PM.

  16. #366
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    51,121
    lol...were you been, RG?
    Very busy. :^/

    Just ducking in to check on things, in between spreadsheets.

    How are things?

  17. #367
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    We've solved most of today's problems. Unfortunately, that involves SA210 as our fair, but permanent ruler.

  18. #368
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    So it's kind of a mixed bag. lol

  19. #369
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    Boehner's Failure and the GOP's Disgrace


    emarkably, John Boehner couldn't get enough House Republicans to vote in favor of his proposal to keep the Bush tax cuts in place on the first million dollars of everyone's income and apply the old Clinton rates only to dollars over and above a million.

    What? Even Grover Norquist blessed Boehner's proposal, saying it wasn't really a tax increase. Even Paul Ryan supported it.


    What does Boehner's failure tell us about the modern Republican party?


    That it has become a party of hypocrisy masquerading as principled ideology. The GOP talks endlessly about the importance of reducing the budget deficit. But it isn't even willing to raise revenues from the richest three-tenths of one percent of Americans to help with the task. We're talking about 400,000 people, for crying out loud.


    It has become a party that routinely shills for its super-wealthy patrons at a time in our nation's history when the middle class is shrinking, the median wage is dropping, and the share of Americans in poverty is rising.


    It has become a party of spineless legislators more afraid of facing primary challenges from right-wing kooks than of standing up for what's right for America.


    For all these reasons it has become irrelevant to the problems America faces.


    The Republican Party in the process of marginalizing itself out of existence. I am tempted to say good riddance, but that would be premature.


    http://readersupportednews.org/opini...-gops-disgrace


  20. #370
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,411
    Your kind of Christianity, especially apologists who are trying to paper over pure evil, and defend the indefensible deserves mocking.

    Tell me, if your God decided that he wanted to you slaughter children what would be the best way to deliver this ultimate good to them?



    Your God ordered people to kill children, and you defend that here. I find that more than a little morally replulsive.
    As my hair gets thinner, I like the idea of a God who sics bears on kids who would make fun of my bald pate tbh.

  21. #371
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    51,121
    You're side-stepping your accusation that somehow my statement was made condescendingly... you interpretted it that way, but that's not how I delivered it. So your accusation and subsequent insult was unwarranted.

    And no, I didn't state that my understanding was "greater" than yours because you lack faith. I was talking to RG when I told him that his understanding of GOD was limited because he didn't have a relationship with GOD (how does one go about understanding matters of faith that he or she doesn't even believe in? He then later willingly admitted that he cannot accept scriptural-based answers because the bible is a 'fallible book' that is the dichotomy I was trying to point out).
    "if you only accepted all my bull on faith, contrary to all the morals and evidence we have, you it would all be so clear"

    You could put the same words in the mouth of any cultist or conspiracy theorist, and it would be the same.

    Once you go down the "faith" road, it makes getting conned by liars all the easier the next time, because you have taken something as true without evidence.

    Lastly, I'm not sure I would want a relationship with such an insane, evil thing. If you are willing to look the other way, that is your business I suppose. Stalin got away with it because people were afraid of him and obeyed him without question as well. Going against Stalin got you horribly punished. Sound familiar?

  22. #372
    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    25,321
    thats why thou shalt worship no other god is in there.

  23. #373
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,117
    Very busy. :^/

    Just ducking in to check on things, in between spreadsheets.

    How are things?
    I had no idea spreadsheets were comfortable to sleep between...

  24. #374
    Veteran scott's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    20,555
    tl;dr

  25. #375
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    113,923

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •