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    How are they going to explain away the countless times Pop and other coaches have done this in the past without getting sanctioned? How is this different from last season when Pop and Big 3 flew back instead of playing vs PHX? Basketball reasons?

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    What portion of what contract is being breached (just out of curiosity)?
    Somewhere in all the contracts, rules, agreements and bylaws that govern the operation of the NBA, there are provisions that describe the powers and responsibilities of the NBA Commissioner. If he takes actions that exceed those powers, those affected have the basis for legal action.

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    Where you seem to be really confused is the team advised them not to show up - it was not the players making the decision.
    I know Pop told them not to show up, but they are the ones who signed the contract and have to live up to it. As I said, I do not know the provisions in the player contracts, but IIRC they can get fined by the league for missing certain events. So even if Pop told them not to show up, they could still be held responsible for violating a contract they signed.

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    I know Pop told them not to show up, but they are the ones who signed the contract and have to live up to it. As I said, I do not know the provisions in the player contracts, but IIRC they can get fined by the league for missing events.
    You're still confused.

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    What portion of what contract is being breached (just out of curiosity)?
    The part where the rule violations and their punishments are set out in the CBA. If "resting healthy players" is not expressly prohibited, Stern doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't just capriciously make up that's not in the rules.

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    Somewhere in all the contracts, rules, agreements and bylaws that govern the operation of the NBA, there are provisions that describe the powers and responsibilities of the NBA Commissioner. If he takes actions that exceed those powers, those affected have the basis for legal action.
    ^ this

    Stern has a lot of power over the NBA, but his powers are not unlimited.

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    Pop gave a big YOU to Stern for 1. making them play all those road games before playing Miami. and 2. ing us in the Western Conference finals.

    Now I know Pop thinks the league is rigged and a joke, that's why he did it.

    I am glad he did. YOU STERN!

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    You're still confused.
    No, I am not confused at all. I am suggesting possible ways that the league could find to punish a team whose players miss a game when they are healthy enough to be there. Whether they will or can do it or not, I already said I do not know. But I do think that Stern will look for some way to say someone violated some contract, and it would seem that it would have to be the players who did so.

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    doesnt really make a difference if they came or not, its still the coach decision to play them or not....

    this is gettin stupid, fck miami, fck their fans, wtf gives a about bandwagon fans

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    What portion of what contract is being breached (just out of curiosity)?
    Good inquiry, Stern could easily cite "economic waste" as a basis for his argument to favor his cause. Anticapatory Repudiation may also be a clause Stern would cite to favor his argument.

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    Good inquiry, Stern could easily cite "economic waste" as a basis for his argument to favor his cause. Anticapatory Repudiation may also be a clause Stern would cite to favor his argument.
    Uh, dude...it's not anticipatory repudiation if there's no rule specifically addressing what Pop did.

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    No, I am not confused at all. I am suggesting possible ways that the league could find to punish a team whose players miss a game when they are healthy enough to be there. Whether they will or can do it or not, I already said I do not know. But I do think that Stern will look for some way to say someone violated some contract, and it would seem that it would have to be the players who did so.
    That is why I am saying youre confused.

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    The Spurs, the Heat, and the Celtics all did the same thing last season with no action from the league. Stern will be hard pressed to explain why this case requires action when previous examples did not.
    Sure, and teams tank too. But that doesn't prevent the commish from doing anything. As somebody pointed out already, there were already previous instances where the commish fined teams from 'resting' players.

    If anything, Stern might just want the practice to end, or at least be announced with enough time beforehand so fans are aware of the kind of product they're buying into (at least for that night).

    As a fan that has driven 4+ hours in a single day and paid upwards of $500 for two game tickets to see my Spurs, I would be fairly upset of learning about that kind of switcheroo mere hours before the game. Sure, you go see the team, but it's obviously not the same thing if all star Tony Parker isn't playing, tbh.

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    As a fan that has driven 4+ hours in a single day and paid upwards of $500 for two game tickets to see my Spurs, I would be fairly upset of learning about that kind of switcheroo mere hours before the game. Sure, you go see the team, but it's obviously not the same thing if all star Tony Parker isn't playing, tbh.
    Life sucks. Get a helmet.

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    ploto, you are looking at it all from the wrong angle. try harder

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    No, I am not confused at all. I am suggesting possible ways that the league could find to punish a team whose players miss a game when they are healthy enough to be there. Whether they will or can do it or not, I already said I do not know. But I do think that Stern will look for some way to say someone violated some contract, and it would seem that it would have to be the players who did so.
    Ask yourself why the league has never punished anyone for doing this in the past. The obvious answer is that it's not against the rules.

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    if he punishes the spurs, then why not punish teams tankin?

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    Ask yourself why the league has never punished anyone for doing this in the past. The obvious answer is that it's not against the rules.
    DING DING DING!!! WINNER!!! THANK YOU!!!

    Stern can't just pull out of his ass and make it stick. Rules have to be voted on.

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    Life sucks. Get a helmet.
    Life is beautiful, tbh. Not what we're discussing here at all. I recall one game I drove to the arena and found out Manu wasn't going to play because of back pains or something while on my way. Obviously, still went and enjoyed the game. But an injury is one thing, a shameless game tank is another.

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    BTW Mel, not sure how long you're staying in NY, but if you need a ride to the philly game at the end of Feb, give me a holla... I'm driving from NJ and we have room for one or two more...

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    Uh, dude...it's not anticipatory repudiation if there's no rule specifically addressing what Pop did.
    As I stated, it is all speculation at this point. Just adding some angles Stern could be coming from to substantiate any potential actions or defense.

    If you can provide Pop's contract I am sure you could substantiate your claim as well. So....

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