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Even if Stern fines Pop what's gonna stop Pop from doing it again? Pop's a in millionaire and more than likely doesn't give a about what Stern wants. In the end Stern will be the one looking foolish for fining coaches for coaching.
we'll see. I wouldn't put it past Stern sending a medical team to verify the injuries. He's a lawyer (and jew to boot). You're not screwing around with him.
Even if Stern fines Pop what's gonna stop Pop from doing it again? Pop's a in millionaire and more than likely doesn't give a about what Stern wants. In the end Stern will be the one looking foolish for fining coaches for coaching.
No doubt
That's not very nice, tbh.
It was actually a compliment...
Given the statement he issued, some sort of repercussion is forthcoming, but I don't believe it will be anything that causes any actual harm to the Spurs.I think Kenny nailed it... they're going to go with thebroken spirit of the game
Whoever thinks Stern will make such statement and there will be no repercussions, hasn't been paying attention. I'm not even sure the CBA matters here as he could drop the hammer on the organization itself, and it would be a matter with ownership, not players.
EJ is a good guy and good host, he's taking the company line with this one but it's bull . If your going with the argument "hey we're paying to see the best of the team, they should play" then how many minutes should they trot the best out there, especially if they are as run down as our guys? It's a slippery slope argument. How much power should the customers paying have over the visiting team... even the home team, especially if the long term is more important than the short term?I think Kenny nailed it... they're going to go with the
Whoever thinks Stern will make such statement and there will be no repercussions, hasn't been paying attention. I'm not even sure the CBA matters here as he could drop the hammer on the organization itself, and it would be a matter with ownership, not players.
Stern is such a power mad , it's embarrassing. I can't believe some people on here still think he's the best commish of all time, he makes Vince McMahan look good.
Actually, it turns out they have..... http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=1299,4182897
Yeah this is why any rule in a future contract is totally unenforceable, because players can always cite subjective medical conditions that don't have a means to be objectively verified (or excluded). Back spasms is a good, generic example.
I agree. EJ was spinning non-stop.
Which is the reason you don't with him. I don't agree with what Stern is saying either, and I think Pop should do as he pleases. But if there's a guy you don't with, it's Stern.
Just reading commentary from coaches and players about this, nobody, and I mean, nobody wants to say a peep against Stern's position. That's how scared he has everyone.
BTW, coaches are not subject to the CBA, correct? They could suspend and fine Pop and the CBA would have nothing to do with it, right?
This would require a change to the CBA, one that the NBA would never pursue. The NBA changed the "injured list" to the "inactive list" precisely because the injured list had become a joke.
They'll never pursue such a change in the CBA for the obvious reason. It would just take one instance where a league doctor said a player had to play, and then that player was aggravated the injury he claimed that he had.
exactly. You saw how he brought the hammer down on Jeff Van Gundy. He's a ruthless commish, I think it's hilarious he's apologizing to the fans. Curious if he's ever apologized for some of the ty officiating that has ruined some epic playoffs during his tenure. Too many people in the league are scared of him.
As stated multiple times in this thread, that was several CBAs ago. And my post referred to players, not coaches.
I see. Tampa is right then, that's the loophole.
My argent for this is it's simply disrespectful to punish the spurs, because stern would essentially acknowledge the fact that some players are better than others and should be treated differently. When pop benches patty, bonner, and nando, that is pops decision and stern couldn't care less. But when it's our 3 best players, suddenly it's an issue? That's my problem with sterns statement
They're not, but they have their own union and there are rules that govern what the commissioner can to do to coaches. I have no idea what they are, but I would bet that Pop didn't violate any of them tonight.
But the CBA doesn't matter. The precedent is set that he can land the hammer on Pop or the Spurs org, correct?
As I said in another thread, if this is going to be the norm, I'd like to see this address teams that tank halfway through the season too.
He has. Or at least he's made the "NBA" issue official statements. He'll say something like "upon further review, a foul should've been called here/goal tending should've been called here/this blocking foul should've been called a charge on the other player" etc.
He issued a statement for one of the Boston-Atlanta playoff games this last season where Atlanta had the ball out of bounds and one of the Boston players fouled someone before the ball was in-bounded.
Atlanta should've been awarded 1 free throw and the ball (they were down by 2) that could've changed the outcome of the game.
The NBA issued an apology -
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...ss-to-celtics/
What are we fans going to do if Stern does end up giving the Spurs a fine or suspending some of our players? Is there a pe ion that we can sign to get rid of Stern?
Those were when the "injured list" existed. Riley was fined for placing healthy players on the injured list. The Spurs didn't violate any rule by choosing to place their best players on the inactive list.
IMO something like "precedent" probably doesn't apply in contract law like it does in cons utional law, but I'm just guessing.
I doubt it's going to be the players, since it wasn't their decision. But suspending Pop for 5 games or so can be considered pretty detrimental to the team, plus what happens going forward?
IIRC, the max players on the inactive list is 3. Spurs sat out 4 + 2 more in Leonard and Jackson.
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