You Don't Know Art

[ChumpDumper]

FWIW your points are well taken.

#unexplainedabstractprintsonlivingroomwall

[Avante]

Dammit.

First ing thread around here in years that I've been genuinely interested in and it gets taken over by Avante's tiresome bull .

Ok all you macho men out there this is how you treat a lady.

Since you do feel that way about this thread and see my drawings as a big distraction I'll bail and let you have that thread you've been waiting on. You ladies need to be respected more.

[silverblk mystix]

Dammit.

First ing thread around here in years that I've been genuinely interested in and it gets taken over by Avante's tiresome bull .

So, DMC copypasting Koriwhats meltdown - is the first thread that has interested you in years?

um...ok.

[johnsmith]

So, DMC copypasting Koriwhats meltdown - is the first thread that has interested you in years?

um...ok.

shutup got

[CuckingFunt]

So, DMC copypasting Koriwhats meltdown - is the first thread that has interested you in years?

um...ok.

No. I enjoyed the fact that DMC's transcript of koriwhat's meltdown and Avante's early attempt at a threadjack was temporarily thwarted by an actual conversation. Free of emoticons, even.

[silverblk mystix]

No. I enjoyed the fact that DMC's transcript of koriwhat's meltdown and Avante's early attempt at a threadjack was temporarily thwarted by an actual conversation. Free of emoticons, even.

Nice one, Chumpie!

[johnsmith]

Nice one, Chumpie!

You're a ing bag

[silverblk mystix]

You're a ing bag

Johsmith,red zero,Jeff van Grundy...what is the difference between these three trolls?

absolutely nothing ....they are most probably one and the same bag...lol

[koriwhat]

Johsmith,red zero,Jeff van Grundy...what is the difference between these three trolls?

absolutely nothing ....they are most probably one and the same bag...lol

anything's better than being a pig.

[silverblk mystix]

anything's better than being a pig.

Is it true you have calf tats?

I am pretty sure I remember some drunken asshole at last seasons spurs game with spurs on his calves...pretty in gay!


and you didn't show me any disrespect face to face....must be the Internet shield.

[johnsmith]

Is it true you have calf tats?

I am pretty sure I remember some drunken asshole at last seasons spurs game with spurs on his calves...pretty in gay!


and you didn't show me any disrespect face to face....must be the Internet shield.

You suck as a poster and a person..... off

[silverblk mystix]

You suck as a poster and a person..... off

johnsmith/redzero/vangundy/


any others?

lol

[Avante]

No. I enjoyed the fact that DMC's transcript of koriwhat's meltdown and Avante's early attempt at a threadjack was temporarily thwarted by an actual conversation. Free of emoticons, even.

I was the one who actually brought some art, threadjack?????????????????? Last time I treat you like a lady.

[ChumpDumper]

Nice one, Chumpie!

You can't even tell a man from a woman.

I was the one who actually brought some art, threadjack?????????????????? Last time I treat you like a lady.

Didn't take you long to jack the thread again, did it?

Complete lack of discipline.

No wonder you're fat.

[Avante]

You can't even tell a man from a woman.

Didn't take you long to jack the thread again, did it?

Complete lack of discipline.

No wonder you're fat.

Don't piss me off got

[ChumpDumper]

Or what, tubby?

[Avante]

Or what, tubby?

[ChumpDumper]

Or you'll faceplant in front of all of us?

You already posted a bunch of drawings, tubby.

Try failing a new way.

[Proxy]

The fact you mention the perception of the art world there is key, I think, as I don't think the "I can do that too!" influence of abstraction has done much (on its own) to actually dilute the level of talent within modern/contemporary art. Or to have dumbed down its trajectory since the start of the modern/post-modern/contemporary eras.

Somewhat removing the art market from the equation, since people with too much money will spend it wherever they're told and since it's the market where people seem to really command more attention than they perhaps deserve, it is much harder to succeed in one of the abstract genres than it is in the figural genres. If you can make things that look like what they're supposed to look like, you'll always have an audience and you'll always have a clear level against which your work can be judged. Without those figural or realistic cues, however, it is MUCH more difficult to convince people your work successfully conveys what you intended. It is also more difficult to dodge the accusations of repe ion or copycatting, as anyone who goes out and tries their hand at color field painting is automatically going to be compared against Rothko (or Ellsworth Kelley, or Gerhardt Richter, or whomever). It's difficult to find a new take on that. However, it is possible for several people who paint in a realistic style to be successful on their own, as the subject matter can often enough to differentiate them even if the style is similar to someone else's.

You're making great points here that I agree with. It's all logical to me, what you're stating of both worlds.

My own thoughts here, but hyper-realism never really moved me much. I always viewed it similar to the metal genre in music... it's impressive on a technical level but a lot of the time it is a complete disconnect from anything resembling emotion, for me. I'm always impressed by artists that have the ability to communicate the same amount of information with broader brush strokes through their understanding of tones and form. It's almost like I feel pandered to when I view a lot of realism.

When I read your statement on abstraction having the obstacle of avoiding iconic cues... I feel like your appreciation there is similar to mine in that my liking of broader brushstrokes in that the goal is to communicate more with less.

[Avante]

Or you'll faceplant in front of all of us?

You already posted a bunch of drawings, tubby.

Try failing a new way.

Still as dumb as a stump I see. That sort of stupid has to hurt.

[ChumpDumper]

Still as dumb as a stump I see. That sort of stupid has to hurt.

So, you're not going to do anything but fail the way you always have.

Thanks for the verification.

[Avante]

So, you're not going to do anything but fail the way you always have.

Thanks for the verification.

Hopefully you're not so ing stupid you think following people around on the net is winning, hahaha!!!!!!!! You really are that stupid aren't ya er?

[ChumpDumper]

Hopefully you're not so ing stupid you think following people around on the net is winning, hahaha!!!!!!!! You really are that stupid aren't ya er?

I never claimed to be winning anything. That's a straw man.

A fat straw man.

The mere fact you think there is something to be won here makes you a loser.

A fat loser.

[Avante]

I never claimed to be winning anything. That's a straw man.

A fat straw man.

The mere fact you think there is something to be won here makes you a loser.

A fat loser.

As usual you let me down again. I'm doing my best here to rev you up, but ya just don't have it. One boring saying nothing load of crap. Dude, why even bother? You simply suck at this like I've mentioned before. Watch how the others do it, ok?

[ChumpDumper]

As usual you let me down again. I'm doing my best here to rev you up, but ya just don't have it. One boring saying nothing load of crap. Dude, why even bother? You simply suck at this like I've mentioned before. Watch how the others do it, ok?

Or what?

You'll eat something?

There's nothing you can do. You're impotent.

And fat.