Should Lebron have been called for a three second violation? He clearly was in the key for at least 3 seconds! Another example of biased officiating against the Spurs?
by the letter of the nba rule book, it could a 3 second call (barely). he gets in the paint with 7 on the shot clock and gets out when theres 4 seconds left. in reality, the 3 second violation is more like the 4-5 second violation. looking at this call is very nit-picky and not worth it. nice play by bron to recover the ball. it was a great game for us despite the loss. lets move on
What was Neal doing not covering Allen? The guy did the same thing to Derek Fisher in the WCF. His defensive IQ is ridiculously low.
OP sounds butthurt as , tbh
nope
not even close to being a 3 second violation tbqh
3.75 seconds at best, but no team would ever get 3 seconds called on them in that situation unless they were there for much longer.
As a true Spurs fan, I am butt hurt. If you aren't 'butthurt', then you aren't a Spurs fan. There genuinely should have been a three second call on Lebron, and that three that won them the game shouldn't have been counted.
tbh = period tbh
The three second rule almost never gets called in the NBA. Why even have the rule if you're going to allow 4-5 seconds on a daily basis?
Last edited by Boomersgold; 12-04-2012 at 03:05 AM.
Most ignored rule in the NBA.
And it's Lebron.
So...no surprise here.
bad bounce, happens, if was called right all the timespurs probably lose saturday
it's not that they don't call it. it's that they won't call it in those situations when a guy is fumbling and trying to gain control of the ball. a lot of it is based on the actions of the would-be offender.
for example duncan has position in the low post inside the paint. let's say he's been there for 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 seconds or so. he then receives the ball from parker. duncan is then allowed 2 dribbles, or maybe 3 very quick dribbles then he has to immediately pass it off or attempt a shot. if he tries to then pump fake or attempt something else other than a shot, he will get called for 3 seconds.
i know one situation which they would call 3 seconds is when a guy is lurking in the painted area without being in reach of the opposing player. but still, I think though refs are still usually a bit lenient on actual time they allow. probably closer to 4 seconds if they see the guy making a quick attempt to get out of the paint, they won't call it.
but after those 3-4 seconds, if he is moving towards the middle of the paint, instead of trying to get out, they will call it.
it's pretty much a judgmental call like everything else in the nba.
NBA refs tend to act as if they've been instructed only to call it when there's a strong possibility the offensive player will receive the ball via a pass or rebound and/or score, or it becomes more like a 5 second rule and only if both feet are in the paint.
Additionally, due to the speed of the game, I think sometimes refs just don't catch exactly when a player enters the paint. So sometimes they probably start counting seconds after the player has entered into it.
coming to a spurs forum and telling us we aren't spurs fans
This is the bigger question. I thought he had been crashing on the ball, freeing Allen up, which would've been more than understandable. Turns out he just had his back turned to his man and wasn't going after the ball at all.... definitely a huge miscue.
When did I say that?
I said if you didn't feel upset after that loss against the Heat, a game in which we lead for the majority of the fourth quarter, then you're not a Spurs fan. Am I the only one that wanted to see our bench beat the Heat? (I also wanted them to win as a big F U to Stern for threatening 'sanctions' against the Spurs)
people called you butthurt over the call. you then went on to say "if you are not butthurt you are not a spurs fan"When did I say that?
I said if you didn't feel upset after that loss against the Heat, a game in which we lead for the majority of the fourth quarter, then you're not a Spurs fan. Am I the only one that wanted to see our bench beat the Heat? (I also wanted them to win as a big F U to Stern for threatening 'sanctions' against the Spurs)
considering nobody on the thread (besides you) was butthurt, you essentially claimed everybody on the thread is not a spurs fan
The no-call basically caused the Spurs to lose the game. If you aren't upset about the no call, then you obviously didn't care that the Spurs lost the game and therefore aren't a true Spurs fan. I can understand the whole 'let's move on thing', but had we won, Stern would've looked like a fool for threatening sanctions (the fine) against the Spurs!
The NBA should eliminate the 3 seconds rule, it doesnt make sense.
Teams would shot more 3 pointers i guess, but then the bigs probably woulndt get the rebound.
This. It never ceases to amaze me how handsomely paid proffesionals equipped with scouting reports and knowledge of lethal shooters like allen allow them open looks . SMH
So can we take away all of Shaq's les next?
Disagree on the 3 sec violation - if refs called these, then there would be at least 10 each game.
Neal, on the other hand, obviously ed up majorly on the play. So it's not the refs fault.
Agreed. They might as well change it to being a 4-5 second rule.
Nah, legit NBA play. Refs let players play. Allen hit clutch three, not that refs gave it to him.
3 seconds rule is not counted as simple 1,2,3.. It's counted as 1 one thousand, 2 one thousand and 3 one thousand. No 3 seconds there and Spurs lost that game, No excuse.
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