Florida State to the Big XII?

[DesignatedT]

But we all agree they don't need a conference championship game bad enough to do it.

Depends how you define this. Odds of them getting a team playing for the MNC go up with a CG, so however much that means to you.

[Blake]

Depends how you define this. Odds of them getting a team playing for the MNC go up with a CG, so however much that means to you.

Prove it.

[DesignatedT]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs

[Blake]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs

Thanks for reminding me that Florida is #3.

Aggy doing the legwork for me.

[DesignatedT]

4 team playoff with 2 SEC teams

[Blake]

4 team playoff with 2 SEC teams

2 of the 4 teams this year would be in without playing in a conference championship game.

Solid research, Aggy.

Thanks

[DesignatedT]

So now a team that's independent has the same chance as a team in the big12 Gotcha.

Only the SEC is strong enough to produce a top 4 bcs team without playing in a Championship Game Best conference in football.

[Blake]

So now a team that's independent has the same chance as a team in the big12 Gotcha.

Only the SEC is strong enough to produce a top 4 bcs team without playing in a Championship Game Best conference in football.

Aggy trying to change the subject after calling me out earlier.

lol

[DesignatedT]

lol ?

[Blake]

lol ?

Yes

[spursncowboys]

Mack replaced Deloss? I just don't see that happening. Or do you mean somewhere else within the Athletic Dept?

Dan Mullen would not be a good hire IMO, Petersen isn't leaving, Carroll makes too much, Saban isn't leaving, Meyer wont leave OSU. Miles just got a big extension.

Best shots of thsoe names are Patterson and Muschamp. Patterson being a much more likely candidate imo.

Even though I am talking as a fan, It's common thought, atleast from what I read, that with UT's location (texas) and endless amounts of money-they can legitamitely try for anyone. I don't see Saban leaving, but anything is possible. Put yeah I agree, if none of the big names care about money or a guaranteed pool of talent, year end and year out then yeah Patterson is the best bet.

However after reading the AD backing Mack, it seems likes A&M will have some more years of stealing our four and five star commits.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...nt-bill-powers

FTR, I am not understanding why UT fans aren't rooting for A&M now. I am so sick of SEC snobbish behavior about their fluff schedules and overrated mid-tier teams

[NFO]

how many times has winning the one extra game for a one loss team helped up a schools BCS rank enough to get in?

Happened in back to back years in 2006 and 2007, and in 2007 the one extra games helped a 2 loss team get in.

[the chronic]

Gotta side with Aggie fan on this one... I don't really see the benefit to not having a conference championship game.

Agreed. Right now Big XII has 9 game conf schedule. With 12 teams it could switch to 8 game conf schedule, and then schedule weak out of conference opponent. So team making conf champ game still plays 9 conf games. So how does this hurt your chances so much?

The SEC has great model of sticking gimme game late in season to give team a break and watch other teams drop in rankings. Then your teams move up rankings and everybody watches your championship game. Clearly superior model.

[Blake]

Happened in back to back years in 2006 and 2007, and in 2007 the one extra games helped a 2 loss team get in.

So twice?

wow!

[NFO]

So twice?

wow!

Correct. One year plus one year equals two.

Never said twice was a lot, just supplied the two times that a team won their conference championship game and it moved them into the national le game.

[Blake]

Correct. One year plus one year equals two.

Never said twice was a lot, just supplied the two times that a team won their conference championship game and it moved them into the national le game.

Thanks

[spursncowboys]

So now a team that's independent has the same chance as a team in the big12 Gotcha.

Only the SEC is strong enough to produce a top 4 bcs team without playing in a Championship Game Best conference in football.

Plus with fourteen teams in the sec, they can ride the hype and fluff the schedule (Ala v. Florida, Georgia*scheduled*, and SC; Georgia v. Bama, A&M, LSU)
SEC is good, but not top to bottom, and definitely not as much as everyone says. Past two years they haven't been as good as before. Bama is ridiculous! But Georgia, Florida and def SC are as high as they are because of the SEC.
Big 12 is a victim of what the SEC were victims of in the 90's and early 00's. Beating each other up.

But we'll see in the bowl games

[coyotes_geek]

The SEC has great model of sticking gimme game late in season to give team a break and watch other teams drop in rankings. Then your teams move up rankings and everybody watches your championship game. Clearly superior model.

Yep. It's not just the gimme games you've got to look at, it's the bye weeks. While every other major conference is spending the first month of their season playing OOC and taking bye weeks, the SEC is playing a bunch of conference games into their first month and teams rarely take bye weeks early in the season. Take a look at the Big12's month of September and the SEC's. In September all 10 big12 schools played exactly one conference game. Every school used a bye week in September. Baylor used two. In September, only 2 SEC schools played one conference game, 9 teams played two conf games and 3 teams had already played 3 conference games. Only 5 of the 14 SEC schools used a bye week in September and one of those was A&M who was forced into it because of the LaTech game getting postponed because of the hurricane. The big 12 rolled in to October with nothing but conference games ahead while the SEC rolls into that month with a quarter of the conference losses their teams will have to endure already out of the way and every team having at least one cupcake on the schedule.