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    I can drink a bottle of grapefruit juice and put myself in the hospital within the hour due to the way it interacts with one of the medications I have to take.
    Because that unnatural chemically engineered medication/poison doesn't belong in your body, tbh.

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    Because that unnatural chemically engineered medication/poison doesn't belong in your body, tbh.
    If that unnatural, chemically engineered medication was not in my body, I wouldn't be walking today.

    BTW, it's a biologic drug.

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    Stick to stuff you know something about, if there is any topic that meets that criteria.

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    On July 26, 2000, the Journal of the American Medical Association published Starfield's review, "Is US health really the best in the world?" Starfield revealed the following facts:


    In the US, the annual death rate, as a direct result of medical treatment, is 225,000 people. Of those, 106,000 are killed by FDA-approved pharmaceutical drugs. The other 119,000 are killed by medical mistreatment in hospitals. This makes medically caused death the third leading cause of mortality in America.
    Amazing how 3,000 died on 9/11 and we used that to justify illegal war and murdering of over 2 million innocents in the process because of it.

    Yet FDA and Big Pharma murder well over 100,000 every single year of our own citizens with unnatural poisonous drugs that they know are harmful..Terrorism?

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    Amazing how 3,000 died on 9/11 and we used that to justify illegal war and murdering of over 2 million innocents in the process because of it.

    Yet FDA and Big Pharma murder well over 100,000 every single year of our own citizens with unnatural poisonous drugs that they know are harmful..Terrorism?
    murdered. You're a ridiculous person.

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    have you considered one of those religious healers?

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    Stick to stuff you know something about, if there is any topic that meets that criteria.
    I know they are poisons for the most part, and made mostly for profit and not our health. I know they only mask problems instead of cure them, and only create other problems in the process. Are they all 100% useless, always? I wouldn't say that. But mostly they are. They are ok imo in RARE cases of emergency really (ER) , but then they should be cleansed out once out of emergency status. But the standard practice of prescribing a drug for any and every ailment and for every doctor visit, for anything is a sure way of staying unhealthy and causing other sickness and disease for yourself in the long run. It may help you walk right now, but it's causing a problem somewhere else. Those quarter million people harmed or killed by these drugs every year know something about that. Eventually the living person thinking they are just fine eventually becomes one of those dead, whether it be by liver failure due to the drugs, cancer or whatever. Taking drugs as a norm will certainly guarantee a weak immune system. Sad, but true.
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    Amazing how 3,000 died on 9/11 and we used that to justify illegal war and murdering of over 2 million innocents in the process because of it.

    Yet FDA and Big Pharma murder well over 100,000 every single year of our own citizens with unnatural poisonous drugs that they know are harmful..Terrorism?
    It's probably just part of the plan to take some of those 100,000 out of the workforce and help the unemployment numbers.

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    murdered. You're a ridiculous person.
    If they know it's harmful, it's murder. And they do know it's harmful. There is nothing ridiculous about telling that truth, maybe unpopular because everyone is so brainwashed into thinking we need to live on these drugs, but it's still true.

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    murdered. You're a ridiculous person.
    BigPharma suppresses the results of their own too-short trials with too-few guinea pigs. Putting essentially untested drugs on the market when BigPharma knows the sometimes fatal side effects IS MURDER.

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    BigPharma suppresses the results of their own too-short trials with too-few guinea pigs. Putting essentially untested drugs on the market when BigPharma knows the sometimes fatal side effects IS MURDER.
    involuntary manslaughter at best

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    Big Pharma and FDA heads should be on Most Wanted list, along with a lot of politicians.

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    involuntary manslaughter at best
    It's very voluntary tbh, in the name of $$$$

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    involuntary manslaughter at best
    "Corporations are people, my friend"

    ... except when they commit murder.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 12-07-2012 at 01:35 PM.

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    If they know it's harmful, it's murder. And they do know it's harmful. There is nothing ridiculous about telling that truth, maybe unpopular because everyone is so brainwashed into thinking we need to live on these drugs, but it's still true.
    You're broad brush characterization of an entire industry is devoid of anything approaching rational analysis. When you use terms like "everyone is so brainwashed", you demonstrate your inability to approach a viewpoint rationally. You share that trait with boutons. Congrats, I guess.

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    "characterization of an entire industry"

    http://www.propublica.org/special/big-pharmas-big-fines

    https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/28-1

    http://the2012scenario.com/accountab...bel-drug-uses/

    TB Giving BigPhama the benefit of the doubt
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 12-07-2012 at 02:32 PM.

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    You're broad brush characterization of an entire industry is devoid of anything approaching rational analysis. When you use terms like "everyone is so brainwashed", you demonstrate your inability to approach a viewpoint rationally. You share that trait with boutons. Congrats, I guess.
    I assume you have the intelligence to understand that "everyone" isn't exactly every living being in America, because I obviously am not one of them. It's interesting though you would bring this up, because you clearly are one of them, at least it appears that way. It's a broad stroke because it's true. Let me use the word "most" then. "Most" people are brainwashed into thinking that pharmaceuticals and over the counter drugs are good for them, or a normal way of life, and that they are a necessary part of getting "healthy" when they are sick, and they really aren't. They keep you sick and make matters worse. It's more than rational. It's fact. Proper diet of natural unprocessed foods, exercise and supplements are the best way to go in "most" cases.

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    "characterization of an entire industry"

    http://www.propublica.org/special/big-pharmas-big-fines

    https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/28-1

    http://the2012scenario.com/accountab...bel-drug-uses/

    TB Giving BigPhama the benefit of the doubt
    First link is dead. Get a grownup to help you.

    Second link is fraud not murder. One of these things is not like the other.

    Third link is dead on.

    As I said earlier (since your asinine narrative filters everything out that you don't understand), Big Pharma has criminal liablity. Never said otherwise, dolt.
    On the other hand, that liability does not extend to everything they do, which is what SA210 is pushing with his "everyone's brainwashed" bull .
    Couple that with your stunted "VWRC/Repug/MIC/UCA/Human American..etc" stew of vapid talking points, and the case you could make gets crushed by your own idiocy.

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    I assume you have the intelligence to understand that "everyone" isn't exactly every living being in America, because I obviously am not one of them. It's interesting though you would bring this up, because you clearly are one of them, at least it appears that way. It's a broad stroke because it's true. Let me use the word "most" then. "Most" people are brainwashed into thinking that pharmaceuticals and over the counter drugs are good for them, or a normal way of life, and that they are a necessary part of getting "healthy" when they are sick, and they really aren't. They keep you sick and make matters worse. It's more than rational. It's fact. Proper diet of natural unprocessed foods, exercise and supplements are the best way to go in "most" cases.
    Descriptors like everyone and most are meaningless. Until you quantify them, just keep saying "everybody".
    I am what I am...a pragmatist that understands some things are good. Some things are bad. Rarely is something 100% either.
    Proper diet and natural unprocessed foods could be fed to me in bed, cause that's where I'd be without those nasty poisons keeping my immune system suppressed.

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    "characterization of an entire industry"

    http://www.propublica.org/special/big-pharmas-big-fines

    https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/28-1

    http://the2012scenario.com/accountab...bel-drug-uses/

    TB Giving BigPhama the benefit of the doubt
    Sadly, they usually just ignore all the links or try to find a made up flaw in them (source, youtube, etc) rather than actually trying to understand them, because at the end of the day they just want their damn drugs and war. And that doesn't heal anything.

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    No, I read the links. lol @ "they".

    Grow the up.

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    Descriptors like everyone and most are meaningless. Until you quantify them, just keep saying "everybody".
    I am what I am...a pragmatist that understands some things are good. Some things are bad. Rarely is something 100% either.
    Proper diet and natural unprocessed foods could be fed to me in bed, cause that's where I'd be without those nasty poisons keeping my immune system suppressed.
    "Most" people believe troops are innocent of murdering children because they were given orders to go to an illegal war, so they don't blame them for following orders. A very few minority could say the soldiers have a responsibility to NOT follow orders that kill innocent children. "Most" people would be offended at such an opinion, would you not agree? Same with drugs, most DO think vaccines and drugs are normal as a way of life, because that's what we are fed to believe growing up. That is NOT an untrue statement, so when you and others are told otherwise it seems ridiculous to you, when it's not at all. Doctors are taught to treat through drugs and surgery only, they aren't taught an alternative, and their true knowledge of proper diet is almost non existent.

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    First link is dead. Get a grownup to help you.

    Second link is fraud not murder. One of these things is not like the other.

    Third link is dead on.

    As I said earlier (since your asinine narrative filters everything out that you don't understand), Big Pharma has criminal liablity. Never said otherwise, dolt.
    On the other hand, that liability does not extend to everything they do, which is what SA210 is pushing with his "everyone's brainwashed" bull .
    Couple that with your stunted "VWRC/Repug/MIC/UCA/Human American..etc" stew of vapid talking points, and the case you could make gets crushed by your own idiocy.
    the first link is legit, paste into your browser, then ask sysadmin why the board software does't post it as active link

    "liability does not extend to everything they do"

    bull . BigPharma's criminal trail of 100Ks of maimed people and 1000s of dead people over the past 20years+ totally denies them ANY BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. They are guilty of testing fraud and other crimes until proven otherwise.





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    the first link is legit, paste into your browser, then ask sysadmin why the board software does't post it as active link

    "liability does not extend to everything they do"

    bull . BigPharma's criminal trail of 100Ks of maimed people and 1000s of dead people over the past 20years+ totally denies them ANY BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. They are guilty of testing fraud and other crimes until proven otherwise.




    There's another trail to be followed. Can you figure out what it is?

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