Believe it or not, Mavs are much better with Fisher
Just reported they were looking at Fisher before Mavs got him. How on Earth could he help? He is old and slow and does nothing well (the corp knowledge is out the door too with a new coach/system and a lot of new guys). Delonte is not a true PG but at least he can defend when on his meds.
Still think they need younger, energy role players that have athleticism and scoring ability.
Believe it or not, Mavs are much better with Fisher
Kup , per the usual, always looking for free-agent signings and trades to bail him out.
When is this dip going to learn how to draft and develop?
Plenty of athletic, young point guards have been on Laker rosters. Toney Douglas, Jordan Farmar, Ramon Sessions, etc, and the Lakers continue to fail at building a half-way decent PG rotation post-Fisher. Or a decent bench.
"Student has become the teacher."
Meanwhile, Jerry West (who you know is involved in basketball decisions) is 6 games above .500 with his Warriors.
DPG right about det trade. The spurs could trade any combination of Mills/CJ/JA/Bonner/Blair for Jordan Hill and i'd think the Lakers come out on the winning end.
you don't need a true PG with Nash out anyways and ball dominant kobe on your squad. Mills would be the best catch and shoot shooter on their team, instant upgrade over Duhon and Morris. Bonner fits the style much more than Hill ever does. They're defense can't get much worse plus their spacing would be so much better with Mills/Matty off their bench.
If Mitch was a real GM and not just an overrated hack trying to get the biggest name possible, it'd be a legit trade that i'd consider.
Bonner on the Lakers would be damn solid. I still do Bonner/Mills for Jordan Hill but that does make it tougher. Bonner on LA could be a little scary tbh..
"Daddy doesn't want you here."
Lakers are 5th in the NBA in 3-point shooting..
They need a guard that isn't a complete liability on defense and adds penetration to their offense..West fits the mold IMO..
West is a solid defensive player and opposing team's must respect his ability off the dribble..
Delonte West would be a pretty good signing. Even when he's being crazy off the court, he's pretty damn solid between the lines. He's definitely better than Duhon or Morris.
The only problem is that he's a slow PG. Not really sure how he'd work in SSOL. Then again, the Lakers would probably be better off making it 14-16 seconds or less, tbh.
@ DPG talking up the Spurs scrubs like they are legit trading pieces.
Spurs will never do a trade with LA. But if they did, the last guy I want to see in purple n piss is Bonner. He would probably turn into playoff Horry as soon as we trade him. He's that type of guy.
CJ/JA/Bonner would all be legit rotation players on the Lakers tbh...
Do you think Jordan Hill is really that good? And why do you use so much hyperbole with regards to me.
Coach Dan already had no use for Hill with NY, he's not a good fit with him now and it's not about a huge upgrade, but a decent one that makes sense. Never said Patty is a game changer, but he has undeniable scoring talent that he's shown at every level he's played. Bonner, more so than Blair, would be another good fit over Jordan Hill for that system. In that case, yes, I think the trade makes sense.
and Devin Ebanks/Darius Morris would be asking how Justin Dentmon liked his coffee if they weren't playing for the Lakers
Yes. O'Antoni is basically running a 7 deep rotation and DHo and Kirb are playing 40 minutes a night lately. They could use the depth, they're exhausted by the 4th and either blow huge leads or come up short on comebacks.
Basically they suck and I love it and have no interest in seeing it fixed. So pass on Hill.
Overrating Delonte. You don't really have to respect him that much. They need athletes, guys that can shoot (off the ball especially) and guys with athleticism enough to create on their own/break down a guy one v one on occasion. If Neal can work his way to not a complete liability on defense, I'm confident a guy with Patty's athletic ability/energy can be at least serviceable with time.
He's not that good but he got $7M this offseason so there's a market for his services. Mills got the minimum and has played worse this season.
What did I say that was hyperbolic? You're the one cowering in fear of the thought of Matt Bnner on the Lakers.
His resume looked better a couple months ago and he got the minimum. Can't shine him into a trade piece no matter how much you talk him up.
In an open market, Hill is going to be much more sought after than Bonner. Let's be real.
@ D'Antoni having a rotation.
Patty's the closest thing he'd have to Barbosa. And Matty is a homeless version of Tim Thomas.
They'd make the 7 man cut easily on det current squad.
He's a big man who's a solid athlete. Ian got a bigger contract and would that argument hold weight? The Spurs let him go...
What did I say that was hyperbolic? You're the one cowering in fear of the thought of Matt Bnner on the Lakers.
i c wut u did thur
True. That doesn't change the fact that he's young, shown promise, is a solid athlete and good scorer. There are plenty of things that go into a market for a player (can go from rags to riches pretty quickly). I am not talking him up as a trade piece in the sense of a star. I'm talking him up as a trade piece that's better than head case, slow Delonte or Eddie House.His resume looked better a couple months ago and he got the minimum. Can't shine him into a trade piece no matter how much you talk him up.
Bonner got paid more than Hill did, did he not? Also, that's not always how trades work. It's about team need, fit and a mul ude of other factors. The real question is do you really think Blair/Mills for Hill or Bonner/Mills for Hill is a ridiculous trade that LA would laugh at such as you are?In an open market, Hill is going to be much more sought after than Bonner. Let's be real.
Delonte's dribble and drive game is a significant upgrade over Duhon and Morris..
Neal worked his way into a below average defender in Pop's system..Mills is still a ty defender in Pop's system, I can't fathom how he would improve under D'Antoni and his lack of defensive responsibility for his players..
I have never understood the Patty Mills hype, tbh..severely undersized SG that doesn't play defense and takes bad shots..sure, I would take him over Darius Morris, but there are better options out there..
Delonte West >>>>>>> Patty Mills, you're a giant homer if you think otherwise![]()
What a ridiculous use of hyperbole. So let me get this straight, it's now considered "giant homerism" to say a guy who is in the NBA is better (more correctly, a better fit for a certain team) than a headcase that was cut from a team and that is no longer in the NBA?
Going even further, there is plenty of evidence to suggest that even if you believe Delonte is better than Mills, that it's certainly not by a wide margin (in your case about 7 >'s) and thinking that one lower level guy is better than another guy who's out of the league and no one has wanted is in no way, shape or form homerism.
Normally I'd laugh with you, but given how desperate the Lakers are looking right now, I'd say that's not too far off the mark.
This is what your comment sounded to me:
"You know what, with Hill the Spurs increase the chance of winning...but hey...i rather watch the Lakers BURN!!!"
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