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    Coincidence?

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    Hard to tell. Start a few more Lakers threads maybe we'll find out.

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    Bryant could care less. He just wants his points, and he's not afraid to say so. His idea of "team play" is pointing a finger at the rest of the guys.

    Seriously, how to Laker fans put up with this guy? It's just embarrassing.

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    Bryant could care less. He just wants his points, and he's not afraid to say so. His idea of "team play" is pointing a finger at the rest of the guys.

    Seriously, how to Laker fans put up with this guy? It's just embarrassing.
    I could never root for that bum, I'm so glad he didn't end up signing with us in '04, tbh...

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    Bryant could care less. He just wants his points, and he's not afraid to say so. His idea of "team play" is pointing a finger at the rest of the guys.

    Seriously, how to Laker fans put up with this guy? It's just embarrassing.
    it says a lot about LA fans tbh. if Bryant was a Spur, I couldn't tolerate someone who is a ballhog and lockeroom cancer. and before people say, "Kobe's got 5 rings, neal with it", the sad truth is Kobe should've had much more rings. He's had the best teams money can buy, whatever is wrong with Kobe has sabotaged chances at much greater success.

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    You could also argue in games they are losing he is forced to go into hero mode which adds to his point totals.

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    it says a lot about LA fans tbh. if Bryant was a Spur, I couldn't tolerate someone who is a ballhog and lockeroom cancer. and before people say, "Kobe's got 5 rings, neal with it", the sad truth is Kobe should've had much more rings. He's had the best teams money can buy, whatever is wrong with Kobe has sabotaged chances at much greater success.
    Not a lockerroom cancer but Terry mings wasn't exactly an assist machine.

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    There was a stat years ago before the Heatles formed, where Kobe had more 40 point games than Wade and Bron combined. And more 30 point games than either of them. He was also the only one of the three to average over 20 shots (he was like at 23 per game). This was despite him having the most dominant frontcourt in the NBA and Bron and Wade being on Cav and Heat teams that lacked talent. It really doesnt matter who he was around him hes gonna get his tbh.

    If I had to guess why he does that I would say in his egotistical mind he really does think him scoring a bunch of points gives the Lakers the best chance to win. Thats part of what makes him such a great scorer when hes on but also why hes such a sorry teammate. I would hate playing alongside this got tbh.

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    Kobe going for the records now he said fuk yo team clown

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    There was a stat years ago before the Heatles formed, where Kobe had more 40 point games than Wade and Bron combined. And more 30 point games than either of them. He was also the only one of the three to average over 20 shots (he was like at 23 per game). This was despite him having the most dominant frontcourt in the NBA and Bron and Wade being on Cav and Heat teams that lacked talent. It really doesnt matter who he was around him hes gonna get his tbh.

    If I had to guess why he does that I would say in his egotistical mind he really does think him scoring a bunch of points gives the Lakers the best chance to win. Thats part of what makes him such a great scorer when hes on but also why hes such a sorry teammate. I would hate playing alongside this got tbh.
    Nah, he's spent his entire career trying to be like Mike. He's copied every mannerism he could outside of smoking a cigar. Mike could take over, but was smart enough to use his teammates efficiently. Kobe just sees the offensive aspect of Mike's game. Mike was a mother er on defense. Kobe was also spoiled by the Lakers with Shaq and Pau. Kobe's had success despite his bad shot selection and volume shooting. He's worshiped for an 81pt game, no one worships a guy who was just one of 8 people in double figures on a team that plays a balanced offense. Everything he's seen in the NBA and from the NBA has said he's doing it right. Basketball common sense says he's not. He's a businessman though, and the corporation of Kobe Bryant isn't a charitable organization. He has to keep his stock up. Winning another ring might seem to be the way to do that, but in reality another ring would be "meh". He's trying to be like Mike. Being like Mike has always been his goal. Plus he's just a sorry prick.

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    Kobe going for the records now he said fuk yo team clown
    No, he said " my team, clown"....

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    No, he said " my team, clown"....
    I meant towards Dwight tbh but yeah funny either way

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    Nah, he's spent his entire career trying to be like Mike. He's copied every mannerism he could outside of smoking a cigar. Mike could take over, but was smart enough to use his teammates efficiently. Kobe just sees the offensive aspect of Mike's game. Mike was a mother er on defense. Kobe was also spoiled by the Lakers with Shaq and Pau. Kobe's had success despite his bad shot selection and volume shooting. He's worshiped for an 81pt game, no one worships a guy who was just one of 8 people in double figures on a team that plays a balanced offense. Everything he's seen in the NBA and from the NBA has said he's doing it right. Basketball common sense says he's not. He's a businessman though, and the corporation of Kobe Bryant isn't a charitable organization. He has to keep his stock up. Winning another ring might seem to be the way to do that, but in reality another ring would be "meh". He's trying to be like Mike. Being like Mike has always been his goal. Plus he's just a sorry prick.
    Agree with most of what you said, the way he tries to be not just the same player but same person as Mike is creepy as . I do think he cares about winning though, but like you said hes never been able to see how much using teammates efficiently would help him with that, so the winning basically has to be done on his terms. With him getting his points. Its been that way since 04' when he got tired of being Shaqs Robin.

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    You could also argue in games they are losing he is forced to go into hero mode which adds to his point totals.
    Spurraider, this is totally true. But he also does it when they're winning. I'll guarantee you that Bryant is far and away the top garbage time scorer in NBA history. I've lived in LA for about 14 years - arrived the same year Bryant said he wouldn't play in Charlotte, so Jerry West traded for him. The interesting thing about his refusal to play in Charlotte is that had he stayed there, nobody would ever have cared about this guy. I've seen a jillion Laker games, and Bryant has always had the same MO. He plays hero ball all the time. In fact, it's all he knows.

    It never ceases to amaze me how Bryant will play hero ball even when they're winning. Make it a point to watch Bryant in closing minutes of games they're up 12-14 points. In otehr words, the game's over, yet he's playing at warp-speed, jacking up shot after shot in garbage time to pad his point total. Well, guess what - despite the fact that Bryant has played most of his career with dominant big men, including the most dominant ever, his career shooting percentage is only 45.4. People...Monta Ellis has a higher career shooting percentage. Seriously, look it up. Monta's is 46.1. But Monta Ellis is a total gunner right? Here's another comparison to chew on...Tony Parker's career shooting percentage is 49.3, and Parker couldn't even shoot until two years ago.

    For whatever reason, Bryant has been allowed to gun it with no conscience for his entire career. There's no explanation for it other than the fact that Laker fans love flash. Bryant is simply a volume shooter. Yes, he's also an alpha dog - who has been off leash for 14 years.

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    Agree with most of what you said, the way he tries to be not just the same player but same person as Mike is creepy as . I do think he cares about winning though, but like you said hes never been able to see how much using teammates efficiently would help him with that, so the winning basically has to be done on his terms. With him getting his points. Its been that way since 04' when he got tired of being Shaqs Robin.
    I think he knows it would improve his chances, but given that chance vs getting his points, he chooses the latter. He's not unique, the league was and is rife with players who care more about their stats than about the team. They weren't fortunate enough to have a rich uncle Jerry to buy them big ass friends to take up the slack.

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    Spurraider, this is totally true. But he also does it when they're winning. I'll guarantee you that Bryant is far and away the top garbage time scorer in NBA history. I've lived in LA for about 14 years - arrived the same year Bryant said he wouldn't play in Charlotte, so Jerry West traded for him. The interesting thing about his refusal to play in Charlotte is that had he stayed there, nobody would ever have cared about this guy. I've seen a jillion Laker games, and Bryant has always had the same MO. He plays hero ball all the time. In fact, it's all he knows.

    It never ceases to amaze me how Bryant will play hero ball even when they're winning. Make it a point to watch Bryant in closing minutes of games they're up 12-14 points. In otehr words, the game's over, yet he's playing at warp-speed, jacking up shot after shot in garbage time to pad his point total. Well, guess what - despite the fact that Bryant has played most of his career with dominant big men, including the most dominant ever, his career shooting percentage is only 45.4. People...Monta Ellis has a higher career shooting percentage. Seriously, look it up. Monta's is 46.1. But Monta Ellis is a total gunner right? Here's another comparison to chew on...Tony Parker's career shooting percentage is 49.3, and Parker couldn't even shoot until two years ago.

    For whatever reason, Bryant has been allowed to gun it with no conscience for his entire career. There's no explanation for it other than the fact that Laker fans love flash. Bryant is simply a volume shooter. Yes, he's also an alpha dog - who has been off leash for 14 years.
    You're absolutely correct. I, too have lived in LA, all my life in fact, so I've watched pretty much every Lakers game that they've played. Can't stand the talk in town that he's Jordan, or sometimes better than Jordan

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    Nah, he's spent his entire career trying to be like Mike. He's copied every mannerism he could outside of smoking a cigar. Mike could take over, but was smart enough to use his teammates efficiently. Kobe just sees the offensive aspect of Mike's game. Mike was a mother er on defense. Kobe was also spoiled by the Lakers with Shaq and Pau. Kobe's had success despite his bad shot selection and volume shooting. He's worshiped for an 81pt game, no one worships a guy who was just one of 8 people in double figures on a team that plays a balanced offense. Everything he's seen in the NBA and from the NBA has said he's doing it right. Basketball common sense says he's not. He's a businessman though, and the corporation of Kobe Bryant isn't a charitable organization. He has to keep his stock up. Winning another ring might seem to be the way to do that, but in reality another ring would be "meh". He's trying to be like Mike. Being like Mike has always been his goal. Plus he's just a sorry prick.
    Right on, DMC. Perhaps the only thing Bryant does more of than shoot is play the blame game. He gets Shaquille shipped out of town while Shaquille is still dominant, then proceeds to lead "his team" to entirely missing the playoffs, then he cries to the media about not having any help. Meanwhile, Shaquille wins a le with another, more efficient 2-guard.

    Miraculously, Laker fans are now crying that Bryant doesn't have enough help to win this year, when he has arguably more help than he's ever had.

    So I agree with DMC's point - I'm not convinced that Bryant's main objective at this point is to win another championship. Frankly, if he was all about winning, he never would have had Shaquille shipped out of town. That made no sense whatsoever in terms of winning. The Lakers made their choice, and they went with Bryant. That was actually a very stupid choice until the Laker organization was bailed out by...Stern?...and Pau Gasol arrived via the murkiest tradde in the history of the league. Ask Popovich how he felt about that trade.

    So from where I'm sitting, Pau Gasol saved Bryant from going down as the most selfish player ever to play. Granted, he still is the most selfish ever to play. But Bryant was going nowhere fast with Kwame Brown in the pivot, and Pau Gasol made it all better in Lakerland. Of course, now Pau has become the scapegoat for all the Lakers' current problems.

    I'll never understand how - regardless of what happens - Bryant comes out smelling like a rose. I would say that he's made a deal with the devil. But we all know that deal would have to be brokered by Stern, and Stern makes all the Laker deals. So the devil will have to hang out in the waiting room reading People magazine like the rest of us.

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    I think he knows it would improve his chances, but given that chance vs getting his points, he chooses the latter. He's not unique, the league was and is rife with players who care more about their stats than about the team. They weren't fortunate enough to have a rich uncle Jerry to buy them big ass friends to take up the slack.
    Very possible as well. Either way hes still a selfish piece of tbh.

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    I was talking to a friend during the Cavs/Lakers game. At one point he told me that Kobe had 29 points and the Lakers were down 4. I told him that D'Antoni should sit Kobe the rest of the game, cause the Lakers would lose if Kobe scored again.

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    You're absolutely correct. I, too have lived in LA, all my life in fact, so I've watched pretty much every Lakers game that they've played. Can't stand the talk in town that he's Jordan, or sometimes better than Jordan
    MJ in his prime would piss all over Kobe and call it rain.

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    Shots fired by CP3?


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    Shots fired by CP3?

    Oh no he didn't...

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    Shots fired by CP3?

    good

    Did yall hear ESPNs spin job on the stat too? Some bull about how OKC is 5-1 when Durant scores 30+ so the Lakers being 1-10 doesnt mean much and basically has no correlation to the Lakers lack of success. As if Durant needs to chuck close to 30 shots to get his.

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    Kind of weird to blame Kobe since he is shooting lights out and is seemingly the only one playing with heart right now.

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