NBA: Lakers @ Cleveland game thread presented by sour Pringles

[Richie]

Here's hoping they trade Gasol for some pieces to fit D'Antonis system, then Dwight leaves this summer and Lakers have to try to win with a back court average age of 37 with no bigs to throw it to down low.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Here's hoping they trade Gasol for some pieces to fit D'Antonis system, then Dwight leaves this summer and Lakers have to try to win with a back court average age of 37 with no bigs to throw it to down low.

If Dwight leaves next summer, the Lakers are totally ed next season regardless. Gasol isn't gonna randomly start playing like he did in '09 or '10, so they'd have a giant weakness up front either way if they lost Dwight and have like an $80,000,000 payroll without Dwight so they'd have little to no way of adding talent.

I'm wondering if in the Nash trade, the Lakers made the same mistake Kerr made when he traded 2 picks to Seattle for them to take Kurt Thomas and arrogantly forgot to lottery protect them. Does anyone know if those Lakers picks are unprotected?

[trypldubl]

Even in street ball...you don't get the rock a few times, you stop giving effort on d and offense....especially if there is a chucker on your team. Can't imagine what these professional basketball players feel like playing next to Kobe.

Yup...you can see it on the other guys faces and their body languages. They are not giving up on the coach. They are giving up on chucker. I am not suprised at the outcome so far. Dude this is the reason why Dwight did not want to come to the Lakers. He could see this crap coming playing with a guy like chucker.

[Malik Hairston]

If Dwight leaves next summer, the Lakers are totally ed next season regardless. Gasol isn't gonna randomly start playing like he did in '09 or '10, so they'd have a giant weakness up front either way if they lost Dwight and have like an $80,000,000 payroll without Dwight so they'd have little to no way of adding talent.

I'm wondering if in the Nash trade, the Lakers made the same mistake Kerr made when he traded 2 picks to Seattle for them to take Kurt Thomas and arrogantly forgot to lottery protect them. Does anyone know if those Lakers picks are unprotected?

IIRC, Cleveland receives LA's pick if they miss the playoffs..not 100% sure though..

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

IIRC, Cleveland receives LA's pick if they miss the playoffs..not 100% sure though..

I just checked that and it actually says the Cavs have the right to swap 2013 picks with the Lakers, but if the Lakers are in the lottery they forfeit that right. the Cavs trading their pick with anybody.

[Mel_13]

I just checked that and it actually says the Cavs have the right to swap 2013 picks with the Lakers, but if the Lakers are in the lottery they forfeit that right. the Cavs trading their pick with anybody.

Not quite. The Cavs have the right to exchange any one of three different first round picks for the Lakers' first pick. The Cavs own their own pick, Sacramento's pick (top 13 protected) and Miami's pick. The Laker pick is top 14 protected, but if the Lakers make the playoffs, it becomes a pretty good bet that the Cavs will exchange the Miami pick for the Laker pick. The Lakers would then convey the Miami pick to the Suns as part of the Nash trade.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Not quite. The Cavs have the right to exchange any one of three different first round picks for the Lakers' first pick. The Cavs own their own pick, Sacramento's pick (top 13 protected) and Miami's pick. The Laker pick is top 14 protected, but if the Lakers make the playoffs, it becomes a pretty good bet that the Cavs will exchange the Miami pick for the Laker pick. The Lakers would then convey the Miami pick to the Suns as part of the Nash trade.

So basically the Suns are getting Miami's pick this year

If the Lakers miss the playoffs does that mean the Suns can still get it or is it lottery protected from the Suns too?

[Mel_13]

So basically the Suns are getting Miami's pick this year

If the Lakers miss the playoffs does that mean the Suns can still get it or is it lottery protected from the Suns too?

It's lottery protected from the Suns as well. As I understand it, the Suns will get first round picks in 2013 and 2015 from the Lakers. If the Lakers miss the playoffs then those picks would just roll back one year and the Suns would get the picks in 2014 and 2016. I'm just not 100% sure based on reading the details from the source I go to for this sort of info:

http://www.prosportstransactions.com...ears/index.htm

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It's lottery protected from the Suns as well. As I understand it, the Suns will get first round picks in 2013 and 2015 from the Lakers. If the Lakers miss the playoffs then those picks would just roll back one year and the Suns would get the picks in 2014 and 2016. I'm just not 100% sure based on reading the details from the source I go to for this sort of info:

http://www.prosportstransactions.com...ears/index.htm

Yeah the way I read that you're probably right. nbadraft.net also has the Lakers currently picking 10th overall with their own pick and they're usually decent at reflecting trades.

[Arcadian]

One more time...



ass lakers.