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Since he is still getting his number called I say no but I'm getting to the point where I think he should be.
Do you still consider Manu Ginobili to be an All-Star caliber player that the Spurs rely on for offense, or is he now considered a role player that will produce at an All-Star level on an infrequent basis?..
Since he is still getting his number called I say no but I'm getting to the point where I think he should be.
Last edited by DAF86; 12-14-2012 at 01:47 AM.
He is a stupid TO machine that is for sure, each good play he does he does some stupid ass wreckless pass into a crowd for the front row. How the can you not control the ball at all Ginobili? I love Gino and he is a legend in SA, but his passes get worse by the year.
a 12 million dollar role player
He's the only one passing the ball tonight for the Spurs.
the guy in the 2nd row doesn't play for the Spurs
Manu decides on a play and makes the pass regardless of what changed between when he decided and when he passes. He will fling the ball right into the defender, into the audience, damn near anywhere because he thinks of what he's going to do ahead of time and does it regardless. When it works out it looks like something from the Globetrotters. When it doesn't, it looks like something from the Globetrotters.
he's as stubborn as Kobe. and both will retire in misery at the end of their days
You all are pathetic.
12 points on seven field goal attempts is very good. 4/7 FG. Six rebounds, seven assists, and four turnovers (too high).
Six rebounds and seven assists is huge (especially considering our supposed PG Tony Parker only put up five assists). Manu does so much more than score points.
He has 7 assists and 4 turnovers, SAME as Parker btw. Also got 6 boards and shot more than 50%.
Today the Spurs lost because of Green and neal, a combined 11 points with 4/16 FG...
he's a role player on a 5th game in 7 nights
The haters just hate. They use no logic.
Neal sucked ass so much tonight, too. Totally hero balled it up for the second night in a row and nearly came up blank.
It was obvious his back was stiff tonight. When he's right, Ginobili is still damn good. Not in his prime but still can put up All-Star level play on a per-minute basis, IMO.
Well, these days Neal takes more shots than Manu. He is only shooting the ball less than ten times per game this season so far. Give him 15 shots and he will produce numbers close to his 17-20 points outings. There is no magic here. Rebounds, assists and steals are up from last year...What do you expect from a 35 years old SG? What player scores 20, 25 or 30 points in 9 shots? Please...In the Olympics, Manu averaged 19.1 poits per game. And that was 5 months ago. Overreaction thread.
Besides it's just December, and HE KNOWS IT. After all these years it's pointless for him to waste all the energy in the regular season and come drained to the POs.
Yep, if Manu wanted to hero ball it up like some others on this team, he could easily put up 16-20 PPG. And he will put up more shots come playoffs time, anyways, I'm sure.
Scoring 12 points on only seven shots is pretty good. I don't know why people are blind and can't see that. He is an efficient scorer.
Neal and Green were awful. We lost because they didn't show up.
How is it an overreaction thread?..
I didn't make a statement in the OP and it's a fair question..
and Kobe was having back spams too today
how convenient
Blair and Diaw not getting any love?
I honestly don't think any Spurs player can really escape blame for tonight's loss aside from maybe Stiffler.
Spurs certainly still rely on him for offense, but he's been on the decline for a few seasons now... he obviously isn't the penetrator he used to be and has come to rely on his shot more...
His PER always been atop the league, but this season it has taken a toll... could be his decline is accelerating..
Not including tonight's game, his PER is still at 18.15, which is 41st in the West. His PER has steadily been increasing and he's shot 46% from the field and 45% from downtown in recent games. There is no reason to despair, even if he has dropped off a bit.
Last season he finished with a PER of 24.18, fourth in the West.
The season is still young, so he may be alright. We'll see.
ElNono jumping off the bandwagon when the going gets tough.
El Nono with the sobering goods.
Its sad to see him on the decline. I wonder if his heart is still in it. Manu is the ultimate compe or, but his offseason comments seem kind of sad, like he's reaching the end. I'm sure he'll still have some great moments this season, but if he wants to play next season, he needs to take a serious paycut. His turnovers seem more pronounced since he isn't penetrating like he once did.
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