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Hopefully it's true. Spurs can't expect to beat OKC without Manu, Kawhi and Jack. Need at least one of those three.
Last edited by timvp; 12-16-2012 at 12:28 AM.
Hopefully it's true. Spurs can't expect to beat OKC without Manu, Kawhi and Jack. Need at least one of those three.
Monday is the Battle for 20, as in the first team to reach 20 wins
That will be a welcome sight.
Good!!
Abaka better not run up on him tbh.
Spurs need Jack's nasty for this.
Good point.
I guess that's true, because they sure don't need his offense or defense. I love the guy, but Spurstalk is so enamored with his past championship contributions and the dose of "nasty" that he brings that the fact that he's statistically one of our worst players goes completely overlooked. I think he's the least criticized guy on this board.
Which small sample size are you judging him by? Obviously not his playoff stats, tbh.
It sounds odd but I don't think the Spurs know how he fits yet. Last regular season, he was working his way into shape. In the playoffs he did well when it mattered but also had a near invisible stretch. This year, he barely broke a sweat before he was injured.
You serious? My small sample size is his entire career. Check it out, you'll be surprised. His BEST WS/48 since his Spurs championship was..... drumroll.... .082. That's his BEST. He's been horrible.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...jacksst02.html
Pretty much.
Then again the expectation for him is simply to be the team's enforcer/Horry stand-in; you can't deny he gets hot at the most opportune moments.
1.@ WS48. That stat was relevant back in about 1993.
2. His situation in San Antonio is totally different than anywhere else. Everywhere else, he's been forced into being the top option or the second option. As a result, his efficiency suffered. Here, he's shown a completely different game ... as evident by his career-high rebounding rate and his huge drop in shot attempts. Looking how he did on Charlotte or Golden State or Indiana doesn't make sense when figuring how he'll produce in his current role.
3. If you think Jackson has had a horrible career ....... I'm not sure what to tell you.
Atleast he comes to play in a big game unlike that pussy red head bozo you stick up for all the time in here, he has had great playoff series before and game 6 last year in OKC he was one of the few to truly show up and show he had it in him again! He comes up big in big moments, THATS WHY WE LOVE HIM! BONER just sucks in key games.
1. I can't quote every stat, and win shares is my favorite catch-all. Let me know if you think there's a better one.
2. Completely agree with your facts. I could be wrong, but you seem to be implying that his efficiency has improved since he's come back to San Antonio, and if that's what you're implying, I disagree with that. His efficiency here seems in line with his career average.
3. I don't think he's had a "horrible" career, that was too strong of a word. He's obviously been a more than capable player. But I do think he is wildly overrated, especially on this board. Kind of an Allen Iverson lite.
Edit: Uh oh, Cagney picked your side... probably a sign for you to rethink things!
Edit2: Since sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet, that first edit was a joke. Mostly.
LOL okay time to side with me in all reality!1. I can't quote every stat, and win shares is my favorite catch-all. Let me know if you think there's a better one.
2. Completely agree with your facts. I could be wrong, but you seem to be implying that his efficiency has improved since he's come back to San Antonio, and if that's what you're implying, I disagree with that. His efficiency here seems in line with his career average.
3. I don't think he's had a "horrible" career, that was too strong of a word. He's obviously been a more than capable player. But I do think he is wildly overrated, especially on this board. Kind of an Allen Iverson lite.
Edit: Uh oh, Cagney picked your side... probably a sign for you to rethink things!
Okay, when judging a player like Jackson, you can't go by any stats. He's the type of player who delivers in the guts of the game (Game 5 of WCF against OKC). His "nasty" you refer to is the guts we need on this team. We also need his chemistry on the court (the "I got your back on this"). Teammates are much more confident when he's on the floor because of it.
Hence the Horry REFERENCE which I was going to post! Bad % from three all year long or average, but a key moment out there where it counts he would turn into the most scary guy on the floor! You can't just go off +/- all day long or % during the year! Jax game 6 last year, the only one who brought it basically! The time comes real men come to play. I agree with you man, f the stats all year long, if you have it when it counts I want you on this team! Shoot 41% from three all year but less than 30% in the playoffs and dissapear in that big game or so I have no love for you. Jax shows up.
Guts, at ude, and grit are fantastic for liking the team, entertainment value, and being happy with the product that we spend our time and money on. Unfortunately, they have minimal translation to winning games.
Also, be careful with your verb tenses; Jackson "has shown" up. I'm fine with being thrilled with how he did in Game 6... I'm thrilled too. But to expect that means he'll do the same next playoffs, or anything close to it, is a fallacy.
He has hit quite a few threes in the playoffs here in GS etc. I am sure he does have that knack to go off and no it's not just one game, atleast he shows up in key moments and has proven to a few times in the playoffs here (QUITE a few from 03 and last year). Minimal translation on winning games? You stick up for Bonner, he translates to winning nothing in the playoffs and his % is horrible in almost every series he has played in since 07 here! He has maybe had what the Utah Series where he does well? First round, fish food. Get im deeper in the playoffs in a big game like Horry or Jax and see what he does. I bet you he doesn't do it.
You don't need them to win alot of games for you, you just need that game or two during a run to make a big difference, the KEY GAME of a series! Otherwise they are just regular season guys who put up stats and do nothing when you really need them. I would take the guy who helps at the key time.
I sure hope so. There's no way the Spurs can expect to beat OKC by throwing only Green and Anderson on Durant, Durant would go for 35+ points easy.
That would be great. The Spurs desperately need a small forward out there.
I bet Richard Jefferson had better 'career numbers' than Jack... but he's a pussy and that doesn't show up in the stat sheet.
Jack could be 1-15 from the floor in a game and I would not have a single issue with him taking a game-winning shot.
pretty meaningless tweet considering he doesn't have the final say. Atleast he's optimistic.
I think if youre expecting more than outside shooting from him offensively youre doing it wrong. His defense is fine, not elite or anything but its solid...and made that much more valuable by the fact that outside of Kawhi we dont have good perimeter defenders. His nastiness is needed too, esp after putting up with a like RJ for so long.
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