Shooting at Conn Elementary, 20 reported dead

[Shastafarian]

So then you have made a couple of assertions:

Your use of "assertion" is incorrect. I never stated my opinion forcefully or with great confidence in the accuracy. See how annoying that is?

1. You attempted to define the term "semiauto" (wrongly).
2. You claim that, since the gun "serves no purpose", it should be banned.

A revolver doesn't need ammo adjustment (lol flintlock). It's not a semi-auto. The semi auto chambers the next round through the gas release of the s while the revolver has a moving chamber containing a round that's actuated by the finger pull on the trigger.

I apologize that my terminology isn't adequate enough for you. I know you really enjoy showing off how much you know about guns, but one doesn't need to be an expert to see the difference between a semi-automatic weapon that has an INCREASED FIRE RATE and something that shoots less frequently. My point about a flintlock is that guess what, that's what they used when they crafted the 2nd amendment. I'd be fine with those weapons being legal because you could probably only take down one kid before someone tackled you. Why? Because it takes forever to reload a flintlock pistol and shoot again. But you were too dumb to understand my point. My bad.

You are wrong in your definition of the semi-auto.

You already said that. You're firing off the same point like it was a... I don't know guns gimme a hand with this simile.

You have to resort to hyperbole "gun nut" in an attempt to excuse yourself of your own ignorance of the gun aspect of the gun debate, yet you still think your opinion means something.

My opinion does mean something because I, like you, have a vote. I also have brain and heart, two things I think you might be lacking.

I am not here to teach you how to argue what no one invited you to debate. Know your subject matter or shut your pie hole.

how convenient for you yet again.

[Shastafarian]

So you just repeated yourself and that's somehow an explanation?

I am not going to educate you on guns. You might shoot someone.

Nice edit but I already replied to your first post. Whoops!

[Koolaid_Man]

Shut yo ass up

^ you had to edit a post just to say that.... you're bright indeed

[Huey Freeman]

^ you had to edit a post just to say that.... you're bright indeed

tbh I forgot to put the word "ass".
I still stand by the post tho

[Shastafarian]

Why should semi-automatic weapons be legal? I'd like to hear it in your own words. Unless wikipedia is down

I really enjoy when people talk smack when others don't respond right away. Reminds me I have a life haha

[DMC]

Your use of "assertion" is incorrect. I never stated my opinion forcefully or with great confidence in the accuracy. See how annoying that is?

I apologize that my terminology isn't adequate enough for you. I know you really enjoy showing off how much you know about guns, but one doesn't need to be an expert to see the difference between a semi-automatic weapon that has an INCREASED FIRE RATE and something that shoots less frequently. My point about a flintlock is that guess what, that's what they used when they crafted the 2nd amendment. I'd be fine with those weapons being legal because you could probably only take down one kid before someone tackled you. Why? Because it takes forever to reload a flintlock pistol and shoot again. But you were too dumb to understand my point. My bad.

You already said that. You're firing off the same point like it was a... I don't know guns gimme a hand with this simile.

My opinion does mean something because I, like you, have a vote. I also have brain and heart, two things I think you might be lacking.

how convenient for you yet again.

You just post random gibberish and somehow you think that's an argument? You're in a gun debate and you don't know anything about guns. You're arguing for stiffer gun laws but you don't know existing laws. You try to pretend ignorance of these things should be the norm, as if knowing things is extreme.

How old are you?

[DMC]

Why should semi-automatic weapons be legal? I'd like to hear it in your own words. Unless wikipedia is down

I really enjoy when people talk smack when others don't respond right away. Reminds me I have a life haha

They are legal. Stupid question.

[Koolaid_Man]

tbh I forgot to put the word "ass".
I still stand by the post tho

I tend to leave out words as well when I have a lot to say don't worry it gets easier

[Shastafarian]

You just post random gibberish and somehow you think that's an argument? You're in a gun debate and you don't know anything about guns. You're arguing for stiffer gun laws but you don't know existing laws. You try to pretend ignorance of these things should be the norm, as if knowing things is extreme.

How old are you?

I know gun laws are lax enough for them to be problematic. Since you keep refusing to say anything other than "I know everything and you don't so I don't have to talk to you" I'm just gonna move on. I'm growing tired of talking to myself.

[DMC]

I never said there wasn't.


I already explained how laws can decrease the amount of crimes involving guns by making it more difficult for the criminal to acquire guns.


I'll say again that my original post was made to point out that what Chomag said was inaccurate. Of course the criminal won't mind breaking the law, but with the law making it harder for him to acquire guns, there is a smaller chance of him committing crimes with those guns.


Obviously if guns were illegal there would be a black market for it. This doesn't mean the problems associated to that black market would be bigger than the problems that already exist. Maybe you should read what I said, because I didn't say to ban all the guns. So I doubt the demand for the banned guns would be that high. Unlike drugs, people usually don't get addicted to guns.


That doesn't surprise me.

How does a law make it harder for a criminal to acquire illegal things?

[Shastafarian]

They are legal. Stupid question.

ok this is my last response because you're just too funny. What is the justification for their legalization?

Edit: I'll say this. You're probably right about me not knowing enough about gun laws. I should research them more and I think I will now. But you're still extremely wrong and pigheaded for your beliefs. Have a good one!

[DMC]

I know gun laws are lax enough for them to be problematic. Since you keep refusing to say anything other than "I know everything and you don't so I don't have to talk to you" I'm just gonna move on. I'm growing tired of talking to myself.

Here you post some very general nebulous words to pretend you are at least somewhat familiar with existing laws.

Imagine someone who doesn't know the rules of basketball, never played, doesn't watch and only hears about it on occasion, trying to get the rules changed. What voice do you think you have? Who's ear would even bend a little to hear uneducated opinion?

Oh things need to change, I don't know how it is now, or what it is that needs to change, but I have some ideas.

[DMC]

ok this is my last response because you're just too funny. What is the justification for their legalization?

They were never illegal, unlike alcohol.

Edit: I'll say this. You're probably right about me not knowing enough about gun laws. I should research them more and I think I will now. But you're still extremely wrong and pigheaded for your beliefs. Have a good one!

So you don't know anything but you claim I am wrong. Based on what knowledge?

People like me get tired of explaining to people like you who just stuck their head in based on some renewed interest because of a sensational news story. You've likely discussed this before, but like then you still don't know anything. You don't go off and educate yourself, you expect the person you're trying to lecture to teach you.

Surely you see the flaw in that.

[Koolaid_Man]

Here you post some very general nebulous words to pretend you are at least somewhat familiar with existing laws.

Imagine someone who doesn't know the rules of basketball, never played, doesn't watch and only hears about it on occasion, trying to get the rules changed. What voice do you think you have? Who's ear would even bend a little to hear uneducated opinion?

Oh things need to change, I don't know how it is now, or what it is that needs to change, but I have some ideas.

you're too amped up DMC...you have 3 options:

• pay for a low grade hooker
• get you a good jerk before work
• finger your hole...

you need some relief bad...you can't sustain this delusion

[SpursRock20]

Wow, this thread has gone a little bit off topic. My sincere condolences go out to all the families of those impacted by the senseless shootings. I can't even fathom how someone could commit senseless violence like this. What a tragedy

[DMC]

you're too amped up DMC...you have 3 options:

• pay for a low grade hooker
• get you a good jerk before work
• finger your hole...

you need some relief bad...you can't sustain this delusion

I could create a Laker troll and pretend to be black. That seems to get you off. You must be really pissed that I took a huge on 2 years of building your online persona by outing you. It doesn't matter who you really are, what other name you go by, I nailed your ass to a wash tub and skinned you like a fat catfish. Now you walk around all neutered acting like it never happened.

[Koolaid_Man]

I could create a Laker troll and pretend to be black. That seems to get you off. You must be really pissed that I took a huge on 2 years of building your online persona by outing you. It doesn't matter who you really are, what other name you go by, I nailed your ass to a wash tub and skinned you like a fat catfish. Now you walk around all neutered acting like it never happened.

^ everyone take a good look at exhibit A.

• Does this sound like a sane person?
• I still don't know what he's all gong ho about
• dude is amped up over nothing he's losing it bout to blow a gasket

[rascal]

People who are directly affected by gun violence want gun control. Those who want to do nothing to make changes have not been directly hit so they are cold hearted to the issue.

America- most gun violence in the world- most gun ownership

There will always be nuts out there( there is no changing that) and when they have easy access to acquiring assault weapons they will use them. there needs to be changes on making it a crime to take assault weapons off your property for those who already own them and ban the sale of future assault weapons.

[rascal]

How does a law make it harder for a criminal to acquire illegal things?

Lock him up if he is caught with them. Same laws as with illegal drugs. Certain guns should be illegal just like certain drugs are illegal. Currently there are tight laws against illegal drugs but lenient laws regarding guns.

[DMC]

Lock him up if he is caught with them. Same laws as with illegal drugs. Certain guns should be illegal just like certain drugs are illegal. Currently there are tight laws against illegal drugs but lenient laws regarding guns.

lol.

So the law catches him with weapons and locks him up. That makes time go backward and Tom Cruise stops the guy from getting the weapon in the 1st place. No, you're talking about punishment after the fact, not prevention.

Guns aren't illegal. Drugs are.

I bet there are more people in the US with illegal drugs than people with illegal guns.

[DMC]

People who are directly affected by gun violence want gun control. Those who want to do nothing to make changes have not been directly hit so they are cold hearted to the issue.

Really? The person who led the march for CHL in the state of Texas is the daughter of a man killed during the Luby's shooting many years ago. She claimed (and won) that if her parents were allowed to carry they could have saved themselves and possibly others. Instead, like those children, those people were slaughtered like cattle. No one person can eliminate guns from this country, all we can do is protect ourselves. You seem to have this starry eyed ignorance that gun control means no more guns. What it really means is the law abiding would be defenseless. You're too caught up in mainstream hoopla to get it.

Btw, how were you affected by gun violence?

America- most gun violence in the world- most gun ownership

Why is gun violence worse than any other violence? Death is death, murder is murder.

There will always be nuts out there( there is no changing that) and when they have easy access to acquiring assault weapons they will use them. there needs to be changes on making it a crime to take assault weapons off your property for those who already own them and ban the sale of future assault weapons.

The guy at Luby's used two handguns. He didn't have the evil assault weapon. In fact, the UT tower shooter didn't have an assault weapon nor did the Columbine shooters. You can do more damage in a close area with a shotgun. Or you could just gas people. , the worst attack on this country was perpetrated with box cutters.

You really don't have a level headed perspective.

[DMC]

^ everyone take a good look at exhibit A.

• Does this sound like a sane person?
• I still don't know what he's all gong ho about
• dude is amped up over nothing he's losing it bout to blow a gasket

Wow look at the huge audience you have. Keep saying it enough and you might begin to believe it.

lol irrelevant, no Laker troll friends
lol towing a line with nothing else attached to it
lol exposed.

[rascal]

lol.

So the law catches him with weapons and locks him up. That makes time go backward and Tom Cruise stops the guy from getting the weapon in the 1st place. No, you're talking about punishment after the fact, not prevention.

Guns aren't illegal. Drugs are.

You sure are a dumb ass. Missed my point.

[rascal]

They are legal. Stupid question.

Did not answer the question with this response. Evaded the question. Does not have any type of good answer for the question.

[Shastafarian]

They were never illegal, unlike alcohol.

That's an incredibly terrible reason.

So you don't know anything but you claim I am wrong. Based on what knowledge?

My knowledge of what rates are.

People like me get tired of explaining to people like you who just stuck their head in based on some renewed interest because of a sensational news story. You've likely discussed this before, but like then you still don't know anything. You don't go off and educate yourself, you expect the person you're trying to lecture to teach you.

Surely you see the flaw in that.

I'm trying to lecture you? I was trying to have a discussion but was met with "you don't know anything about guns. I'm not here to educate." Then what are you here to do? Contribute so much by trying to belittle other people?