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    Maybe you should read up on what wild hogs are doing to South Texas' agriculture and eco system.
    Wild hogs can be real mean also...

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    these are "loose lips" by a fringe asshole. This is mainstream thinking in bubba land

    Gun Lobbyist: Americans Should Be ‘Prepared’ To Take On Elected Officials With Guns

    CHRIS MATTHEWS (HOST): So you’re like Sharron Angle, out in Nevada, who said we need our Second Amendment rights to control when our politicians get out of hand.


    PRATT: That’s our Second Amendment rights, she’s not making that up.


    MATTHEWS: So how would you use your Second Amendment rights if you didn’t like the way your congressman or senator is representing you? [...]


    PRATT: By being prepared. [...]


    MATTHEWS: So Larry, it’s not just the right to use guns to protect your homes, it’s the right to take on your government?


    PRATT: The government has been overboard.

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    well then if i go hunting and bring something home, i will bring it to you for processing (especially since that is the missing link in this whole plan (my wife doesn't like gamey taste)).
    It's really pretty simple. You just start with a deer and trim away everything you don't want to eat...

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    Wild hogs can be real mean also...
    Especially if you call them a pig!!

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    Especially if you call them a pig!!

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    Especially if you call them a pig!!
    LOL...

    We had wild hogs out on a small military site. They really were a nuisance, but we left them alone, and they left us alone.

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    LOL...

    We had wild hogs out on a small military site. They really were a nuisance, but we left them alone, and they left us alone.
    I don't care how many times they tell me not to shoot the wildlife, when they run through the firing range-it's on!!

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    I don't care how many times they tell me not to shoot the wildlife, when they run through the firing range-it's on!!
    LOL...

    Just have to time it with a bee-line to your target, right?

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    Children of all races always respond well to President Obama. How children act around a stranger tells you as much about the stranger as about the children themselves. I love how comfortable little children are with our president. He is such a good man, and if we aren't, WE SHOULD BE so proud to have a person like him as our president.

    What a precious picture..It goes to show that racists aren't born they are bred....Stop the madness folks


    Just stop.

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    Also, notice that the parents made sure there was a cop on hand



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    LOL...

    Just have to time it with a bee-line to your target, right?
    I remember a buddy of mine shot at-4 at a target out in the range. It completely missed. The Range Observer started yelling at him, saying "You missed!!" My friend said "No I didn't" and through the radio you hear a guy say "holy , he just blew that rabbit up!"

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    This is You Week, Jezebel's first annual week of desperate emotional cleansing and unhinged psychic purging. And yeah, considering what happened today, we feel weird about it — but still. It's relevant.

    At least twenty-seven people including twenty little kids were massacred today at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, according to the most recent reports. As of now, it's the second-deadliest shooting in U.S. history. How could such a thing happen? Easily: Because we refuse to talk about gun control in this country. Actually, the term "gun control"; we refuse to talk about how to prevent ing massacres from happening over and over again thanks to how ing simple it is for practically anyone to get their hands on some nifty automated mass murdering weapons. everyone who says today isn't the time to politicize gun violence. Most of all, the NRA and all of its political cronies. This is your fault.

    you, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, for saying that "today is not that day" to discuss gun control. The only acceptable explanation for that statement is that you got cut off from saying, "because yesterday was." Off the top of my head: this year's Dark Night Rises shooting massacre in Aurora might have been an excellent time to bring up the topic! But, no, we had an election to take care of, and neither candidate wanted to tackle the 2nd Amendment some Americans hold so near and dear; Obama discussed gun control a total of 3 times on the campaign trail. 3 times.

    We could've talked about it, oh, anytime in the past 13 years since Columbine, because there have been at least 31 school shootings in the U.S. since then. It's a waste of our time to keep listing all of the times we could've talked about it; it's easier just to say the time was then, the time is tomorrow, and the time is now.

    Hey, White House: we know you're trying to be respectful, but respect doesn't mean to the dozens of families who just lost their little kids and loved ones. Respect them by starting the conversation right now. Start it tonight.

    While we're talking politics: you, all of the politicians who received money from the NRA last election cycle. Check them out here! Memorize their names and remember that they're a massive part of the problem.

    you, people who say, "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Sorry, assholes, this isn't the time for semantics. Guns are the tools that enable people who kill people to kill lots and lots of people with ease. And they're ing efficient. According to Mother Jones, which has done excellent research on this topic, there's a clear relationship between the rise in civilian firearms and the rise in mass shootings; they counted two per year on average since 1982, and 24 of the 61 cases they looked at occurred after 2006. This year alone there have been six mass shootings with 110 people injured and killed, a record number. In 1995 there were about 200 million guns in the hands of average Joes and Joannes. Today, there are around 300 million. That's a 50 percent jump. If you don't think that guns have anything to do with the rise in mass shootings, you're a ing idiot.

    you, people who say, "if only the good guys had guns." Mother Jones, again bringing the awesome rationality and crucial data, analyzed 61 recent U.S. mass shootings and found that the killing wasn't stopped by a civilian with a gun in any of those cases. It's delusional to think that guns can help stop massacres like the one that happened today. Of course, people do think that; yesterday, the Michigan State Senate passed a law allowing concealed weapons in schools and daycares. No no no no no. Let's stop pretending the "if everyone had a gun, everyone could protect themselves!" argument is worth considering. It's obvious it doesn't work, and it's demonstrably dangerous to suggest otherwise. As in, hundreds of people are dying because we can't have a real talk about guns.

    Why can't we? Because of the National Rifle Association. THE NRA. They've been having a successful and lucrative year, as this recent Bloomberg Businessweek piece points out; Republican-controlled legislatures in at least four states are considering allowing employees to bring guns to work, Florida will soon be the first state to have issued 1 million permits allowing people to conceal their firearms, and an Illinois law barring citizens from packing heat outside their home or business was struck down by a federal appeals court.

    Since Obama got elected, "firearm manufacturers and their vocal ally, the National Rifle Association, have enjoyed an extraordinary boom, based heavily on fear marketing," Businessweek reports:

    The industry pitch: Obama plans to restrict, if not confiscate, your guns. This has sent hundreds of thousands of people to their Main Street gun shop or firearm website, propelled by the notion that they better buy while they can. The twist is that while Obama occasionally murmurs about gun control, he has done nothing to make it more difficult to lawfully acquire or carry firearms. The president and his advisers fear a political backlash (and, on substance, may worry that tinkering with gun laws will not actually affect crime rates in a substantial way).

    The upshot: Gun sellers and promoters of gun rights are pushing further and further in an environment of seemingly endless possibilities for their side of the perennial debate over the wisdom and significance of packing heat.

    In the past four years, in 37 states, the NRA and their political BFFs have pushed through a whopping 99 laws making guns a cinch to buy, carry in public, and hide from the government.

    When shooting massacres like today's happen, the NRA basically just waits around until emotions aren't so raw before its spokespeople start rambling on about self-defense. Then, the NRA waits around some more until Americans move onto some other outrage. They know Obama won't do because they and their friends wield so much political power.

    By the way, this was the NRA's last tweet, earlier today: "10 Days of NRA Giveaways - Enter today for a chance to win an auto emergency tool!"

    you, NRA. You guys are ing murderers.

    Today, we don't need prayers. We don't need thoughts. We need action. We need to politicize this, and we need to politicize this now. everyone who isn't ready to talk about gun control. You're the reason 27 people (and counting) died today. Don't forget it.

    http://jezebel.com/5968540/ -you-...ium=socialflow

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    The US isn't even close to the top in murder rate. It doesn't matter what tool they used.

    Those at the top in murder rate are largely Latin American countries and African countries. The US has a large population of African Americans and Latin Americans. They comprise the largest portion of the prison population. The EU countries don't have the same situation.

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    The US isn't even close to the top in murder rate. It doesn't matter what tool they used.

    Those at the top in murder rate are largely Latin American countries and African countries.
    Hence the le of the graph.
    The US has a large population of African Americans and Latin Americans. They comprise the largest portion of the prison population. The EU countries don't have the same situation.
    I wouldn't expect EU countries to be full of Americans. Some do have rather large immigrant populations though.

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    Hence the le of the graph.I wouldn't expect EU countries to be full of Americans. Some do have rather large immigrant populations though.
    Immigrant is anyone who moved there. It's not just Africans and Latinos. Nice misdirection though. I didn't mention immigrants. I mentioned Africans and Latinos. They comprise a minority of the population but a majority of the crime. Their respective countries are very much under developed because of the fact the indigenous population has a genetic code that makes them predisposed to being poor social creatures. Asians come here from under developed countries and they seem to do just fine for the most part. Latinos and Americanized Africans though come from a culture of living off the grid and even those who succeed in legit business prefer to do most of their bidding off the grid. They take small profits in things others do not consider a profit venture, like going out to lunch with a friend. They do not pay, they get free lunch, that's a profit. They don't leave a tip, they get off cheaper, that's a profit. They haggle prices on menial and save a dollar, that's a profit. They feel very good about themselves afterward. They respect people who live off the grid, by hook or by crook. They are wary of people who vote and pay taxes, who have an education and hold a steady job. That's a recipe for a high gun crime rate. You will almost never see one of them turn down a "too good to be true" offer like buying stolen merchandise. They see it as someone else's loss. Italians are very similar. This country is comprised of people who didn't hail from those low gun crime countries. I have no idea why people compare us to them.
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    Immigrant is anyone who moved there. It's not just Africans and Latinos. Nice misdirection though. I didn't mention immigrants. I mentioned Africans and Latinos. They comprise a minority of the population but a majority of the crime. Their respective countries are very much under developed because of the fact the indigenous population has a genetic code that makes them predisposed to being poor social creatures. Asians come here from under developed countries and they seem to do just fine for the most part. Latinos and Americanized Africans though come from a culture of living off the grid and even those who succeed in legit business prefer to do most of their bidding off the grid. They take small profits in things others do not consider a profit venture, like going out to lunch with a friend. They do not pay, they get free lunch, that's a profit. They don't leave a tip, they get off cheaper, that's a profit. They haggle prices on menial and save a dollar, that's a profit. They feel very good about themselves afterward. They respect people who live off the grid, by hook or by crook. They are wary of people who vote and pay taxes, who have an education and hold a steady job. That's a recipe for a high gun crime rate. You will almost never see one of them turn down a "too good to be true" offer like buying stolen merchandise. They see it as someone else's loss. Italians are very similar. This country is comprised of people who didn't hail from those low gun crime countries. I have no idea why people compare us to them.
    What the did I just read?

    You actually edited it to make your views more clear.

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    Anyone have examples of Patriots with guns stopping these monsters when they go on these kind of rampages?

    Post 'em here please.
    I had forgotten about this, but Columbine High School had a resource officer (a county sheriff assigned to the school) on duty the day of the rampage at that school. An armed resource officer who traded fire with one of the gunmen. His presence -- and the fact that he was armed -- didn't seem to deter those guys from plotting their attack or from carrying it out; in fact, they killed more students after exchanging fire with the resource officer than they did before they encountered him.

    I'm not a believer in the idea that the Second Amendment should be repealed or that all guns are bad; I think limits are good, but acknowledge that there are practical problems with trying to impose them. I'll also admit that I'm not a big believer in the notion that introducing guns into schools is either a good idea or an effective deterrent against broken people who choose to do unthinkable things. The Columbine example, singular as it is, is at least some proof that motivated madmen aren't completely deterred by the presence of even a trained gunman at the location they intend to shoot up.

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    Immigrant is anyone who moved there. It's not just Africans and Latinos. Nice misdirection though. I didn't mention immigrants. I mentioned Africans and Latinos. They comprise a minority of the population but a majority of the crime. Their respective countries are very much under developed because of the fact the indigenous population has a genetic code that makes them predisposed to being poor social creatures. Asians come here from under developed countries and they seem to do just fine for the most part. Latinos and Americanized Africans though come from a culture of living off the grid and even those who succeed in legit business prefer to do most of their bidding off the grid. They take small profits in things others do not consider a profit venture, like going out to lunch with a friend. They do not pay, they get free lunch, that's a profit. They don't leave a tip, they get off cheaper, that's a profit. They haggle prices on menial and save a dollar, that's a profit. They feel very good about themselves afterward. They respect people who live off the grid, by hook or by crook. They are wary of people who vote and pay taxes, who have an education and hold a steady job. That's a recipe for a high gun crime rate. You will almost never see one of them turn down a "too good to be true" offer like buying stolen merchandise. They see it as someone else's loss. Italians are very similar. This country is comprised of people who didn't hail from those low gun crime countries. I have no idea why people compare us to them.
    Could you do me a favor, and publish your research exposing this "genetic code" that predisposes africans and latinos to be "poor social creatures"? It sounds fascinating.

    Also, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me where the majority of immigrants in france and spain are from, I imagine you have that info handy as part of your research.
    Thanks!

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    DMC is trolling pretty hard his morning.

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    I had forgotten about this, but Columbine High School had a resource officer (a county sheriff assigned to the school) on duty the day of the rampage at that school. An armed resource officer who traded fire with one of the gunmen. His presence -- and the fact that he was armed -- didn't seem to deter those guys from plotting their attack or from carrying it out; in fact, they killed more students after exchanging fire with the resource officer than they did before they encountered him.

    I'm not a believer in the idea that the Second Amendment should be repealed or that all guns are bad; I think limits are good, but acknowledge that there are practical problems with trying to impose them. I'll also admit that I'm not a big believer in the notion that introducing guns into schools is either a good idea or an effective deterrent against broken people who choose to do unthinkable things. The Columbine example, singular as it is, is at least some proof that motivated madmen aren't completely deterred by the presence of even a trained gunman at the location they intend to shoot up.
    If you want to take this example a step further, think of how many guns were around Maj. Nidal Hasan.

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    Immigrant is anyone who moved there. It's not just Africans and Latinos. Nice misdirection though. I didn't mention immigrants. I mentioned Africans and Latinos. They comprise a minority of the population but a majority of the crime. Their respective countries are very much under developed because of the fact the indigenous population has a genetic code that makes them predisposed to being poor social creatures. Asians come here from under developed countries and they seem to do just fine for the most part. Latinos and Americanized Africans though come from a culture of living off the grid and even those who succeed in legit business prefer to do most of their bidding off the grid. They take small profits in things others do not consider a profit venture, like going out to lunch with a friend. They do not pay, they get free lunch, that's a profit. They don't leave a tip, they get off cheaper, that's a profit. They haggle prices on menial and save a dollar, that's a profit. They feel very good about themselves afterward. They respect people who live off the grid, by hook or by crook. They are wary of people who vote and pay taxes, who have an education and hold a steady job. That's a recipe for a high gun crime rate. You will almost never see one of them turn down a "too good to be true" offer like buying stolen merchandise. They see it as someone else's loss. Italians are very similar. This country is comprised of people who didn't hail from those low gun crime countries. I have no idea why people compare us to them.
    What the did I just read?

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    If you want to take this example a step further, think of how many guns were around Maj. Nidal Hasan.
    was he wearing body armor? if not, refutes even more the "more guns everywhere all the time" to "save the children" argument (which really a guns-and-ammo sales pitch)

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    If you want to take this example a step further, think of how many guns were around Maj. Nidal Hasan.
    None. Soldiers are not allowed to carry personal weapons what-so-ever. Can't even have them in your house if you live on post. When you sign out weapons from your unit arms room, most first sergeants won't let you go anywhere from your building until all weapons are accounted for and back in the arms room. Furthermore it takes quite a bit of paperwork to get ammo. The ammo, normally is met with your unit at the range. After words you are patted down and all your equipment and clothing is rummaged through for lost ammo. unused rounds and dunnage (empty s s) are counted and have to match the amount you originally went out with. It's very tedious but VERY thorough.

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