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    "How about stiffer deterrents against the people committing the crimes?"

    state execution hasn't deterred crime.



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    The thought of gun registration scares me. It really only accomplished two things. First it tells the government how many and what type of guns law abiding citizens have. Second, it tells them how much force they will want to bring with them if they ever decide to take the guns from law abiding citizens. The criminals are going to have unregistered guns anyway.

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    We will never agree. People kill people. The gun is just a tool for doing that. How about stiffer deterrents against the people committing the crimes?
    Maybe SUPER LIFE IMPRISONMENT? Or SUPER DEATH PENALTY?

    Cool suggestions.

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    The thought of gun registration scares me. It really only accomplished two things. First it tells the government how many and what type of guns law abiding citizens have. Second, it tells them how much force they will want to bring with them if they ever decide to take the guns from law abiding citizens. The criminals are going to have unregistered guns anyway.
    They'll always have more force than you. Is this a real concern of yours?

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    We need not restrict the idea to concealed handguns, but the way we regulate concealed handguns is much better than the way we currently regulate assault rifles. It should be harder for someone to get an AR-15 than a pistol, not easier.
    Ever looked into how many people are actually murdered a year with an "assault rifle"? 2x more people are murdered each year by a blunt object than an assault rifle, 3x as many people are murdered by fists and feet than an assault rifle. Lets ban all fists and feet!

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    Maybe SUPER LIFE IMPRISONMENT? Or SUPER DEATH PENALTY?

    Cool suggestions.
    How about actually imposing the death penalty, and quickly. It doesn't happen very much these days.

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    , I'm going by Academy on the way home to see if they have any Mossberg 715T's left. That was going to be my next toy purchase...add a laser and a hologram sight for a ranch plinking gun. Heard today that academy is going to sell out of semi-automatic rifles and not restock.

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    But Real Men, equipped with Full lessness, Insecure Masculinity, diseased pot bellies, need Real Guns.

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    But Real Men, equipped with Full lessness, Insecure Masculinity, diseased pot bellies, need Real Guns.
    I would say the family man need to protect himself from those you just described.

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    How about actually imposing the death penalty, and quickly. It doesn't happen very much these days.
    The Colorado theatre shooter has tried to kill himself a few times while in jail now.....and most of the time these guys kill themselves the day of......so you're idea prolly wouldn't help.

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    But Real Men, equipped with Full lessness, Insecure Masculinity, diseased pot bellies, need Real Guns.
    Gun control issues aside, you sound like a giant pussy.

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    They'll always have more force than you. Is this a real concern of yours?
    Not me. I don't have any guns to register...

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    Ever looked into how many people are actually murdered a year with an "assault rifle"? 2x more people are murdered each year by a blunt object than an assault rifle, 3x as many people are murdered by fists and feet than an assault rifle. Lets ban all fists and feet!
    Again with the false equivalence of "control" with "ban", well done.

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    How about actually imposing the death penalty, and quickly. It doesn't happen very much these days.
    You think that will be a real deterrent? Right.

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    Again with the false equivalence of "control" with "ban", well done.
    My bad.....let's control fists and feet by making everyone register them.

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    My bad.....let's control fists and feet by making everyone register them.
    I'll play your game.

    Since registration is pointless, why bother with cars? Or deeds and les?

    Why restrict our ownership of nuclear weapons? If you outlaw Nukes, only outlaws will have Nukes.

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    Furthermore, are some of you suggestion that the CHL is an onerous restriction to gun ownership and should be done away with?

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    My bad.....let's control fists and feet by making everyone register them.
    I already have to do this.

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    Gun control issues aside, you sound like a giant pussy.
    This one giant pussy you less right winger don't ever want to meet in person. btw, you'll be overjoyed to know my mother is still dead.

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    Oooooo scary bot!

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    I'll play your game.

    Since registration is pointless, why bother with cars? Or deeds and les?

    Why restrict our ownership of nuclear weapons? If you outlaw Nukes, only outlaws will have Nukes.
    Didn't stop north Korea and Iran...

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    Furthermore, are some of you suggestion that the CHL is an onerous restriction to gun ownership and should be done away with?
    Not at all. CHL is a VOLUNTARY registration in exchange for broader legal rights to carry a weapon.

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    I'll play your game.

    Since registration is pointless, why bother with cars? Or deeds and les?

    Why restrict our ownership of nuclear weapons? If you outlaw Nukes, only outlaws will have Nukes.
    i only brought up fists and feet murders to show they've done more harm than the rifle you deemed so dangerous. I really don't mind the registration thing, I live in California and am used to getting anally raped every time I purchase a new firearm. It would be nothing new to me.

    Basically my stance on it is this, I'll never give up my guns. They can pry them from my dead hand. I have a feeling there are millions more who feel the same way.

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    I'll play your game.

    Since registration is pointless, why bother with cars? Or deeds and les?

    Why restrict our ownership of nuclear weapons? If you outlaw Nukes, only outlaws will have Nukes.
    That's a pretty specious analogy. le to property (whether its a car or land) helps determine who has an ownership interest. I don't think anyone believes registering a car makes people driver safer.

    You're arguing for licensing as a way to control who has and ultimately can use guns. That goal (restrictions on use) is way harder to accomplish with licensing. Registration makes sense when you want to know who has a lien on my car or whether there's an easement on land I want to buy. It doesn't make sense when you want to restrict people's use of a thing.

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    This one giant pussy you less right winger don't ever want to meet in person. btw, you'll be overjoyed to know my mother is still dead.

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