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    He could have chosen any of the other three guns she had (and he had with him).
    what's your point? are you saying he couldn't have done similar damage with the Glock and Sig?

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    what's your point? are you saying he couldn't have done similar damage with the Glock and Sig?
    The conversation was about the fact that they always choose assault rifles. You said he didn't choose it because it was the only one available to him. I told you that it wasn't and therefore he chose it.

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    The truth is, youre just incredibly selfish. All you care about is that you get to keep your guns, in spite of the fact that 20 kids got murdered. Youre just too chicken to admit it.

    I hope they take away your guns and i hope you cry like the pussy that you are when they do it.
    This non-argument is just as idiotic as the last time you tried it last summer...

    The fact is, there are plenty of responsible, licensed gun owners who have a Cons utional right to that property... you are not the arbiter over whether they "need to" or "should" own guns, the fact is that they are legally en led to own them....

    Punishing innocent people for the actions of a nutjob is ridiculous...

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    The conversation was about the fact that they always choose assault rifles. You said he didn't choose it because it was the only one available to him. I told you that it wasn't and therefore he chose it.
    There were 3 (or 4?) guns that his mom had. He took them. Out of the three, he went with the AR-15. We have no idea why. It's possible that this is what he's seen most in the movies or video games. Or it's possible that he had the most ammo or clips for this gun. I don't know. But I don't think you can say he "chose" it because it was the most lethal.

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    Except he has to STOP TO RELOAD.

    Guess when they tackled Jared Lee Loughner in Tucson.

    If Assault Rifles dont change anything, then WHY DO THE PSYCHOS KEEP USING ASSAULT RIFLES?
    Have you ever shot a semi auto pistol? Dude coulda had 30 magazines on a belt. Any halfway competent gun operator can reload and chamber a semi auto pistol in 3-5 seconds, tops. Besides, a guy can buy 30 rd magazines for, say, a Glock. If you're a sicko going around reeling shots off at point blank, it doesn't matter if you've got a 9mm pistol or an AR-15 or any other gun you want to mention.

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    what's your point? are you saying he couldn't have done similar damage with the Glock and Sig?
    Why didnt he though? If theyre the same (as youre implying) why did he go with the assault rifle.

    Oc s razor: Because its easier to do more damage with an assault rifle.

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    There were 3 (or 4?) guns that his mom had. He took them. Out of the three, he went with the AR-15. We have no idea why. It's possible that this is what he's seen most in the movies or video games. Or it's possible that he had the most ammo or clips for this gun. I don't know. But I don't think you can say he "chose" it because it was the most lethal.
    The point was that the mass killers tell us that assault weapons are the most lethal/dangerous/etc by choosing them every time.

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    Have you ever shot a semi auto pistol? Dude coulda had 30 magazines on a belt. Any halfway competent gun operator can reload and chamber a semi auto pistol in 3-5 seconds, tops. Besides, a guy can buy 30 rd magazines for, say, a Glock.
    Would YOU rather face THIS kid with an assault rifle or a glocK?

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    Why didnt he though? If theyre the same (as youre implying) why did he go with the assault rifle.

    Oc s razor: Because its easier to do more damage with an assault rifle.

    Tell me how an AR-15 is more lethal at point blank range than a 9mm with hollow points...? It's not.

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    The point was that the mass killers tell us that assault weapons are the most lethal/dangerous/etc by choosing them every time.
    Exactly.

    Again, gun advocates have to pretend to be stupid. They pretend to not understand why assault rifles are more lethal, yet they buy assault rifles because THEY KNOW theyre more lethal.

    The truth is they just really dont want to give up their guns.

    The car analogies get worse and worse.

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    Would YOU rather face THIS kid with an assault rifle or a glocK?
    Hypothetically, if I'm unarmed and he's at point blank range? I don't give a . I won't be in pain long regardless.

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    Hypothetically, if I'm unarmed and he's at point blank range? I don't give a . I won't be in pain long regardless.
    Dont dodge the question.

    If you were in Colorado theater or this school, would you rather the psycho have semis or an assault rifle?

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    Tell me how an AR-15 is more lethal at point blank range than a 9mm with hollow points...? It's not.
    If it isnt any more lethal, then why should anyone care if they were outlawed?

    I mean, if a 9mm is the equivalent, then who cares?

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    Why didnt he though? If theyre the same (as youre implying) why did he go with the assault rifle.

    Oc s razor: Because its easier to do more damage with an assault rifle.
    what the ???? Oc 's Razor? Applied to someone who is bat crazy????

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    Dont dodge the question.

    If you were in Colorado theater or this school, would you rather the psycho have semis or an assault rifle?
    If I'm stuck in a small classroom with the guy and he's trying to shoot me, I want him to be holding the AR-15.

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    Dont dodge the question.

    If you were in Colorado theater or this school, would you rather the psycho have semis or an assault rifle?

    It honestly wouldn't matter in those situations. Now, if the guy doesn't have extra mags for either one, I'll say the pistol, simply because he'll run out of ammo quicker. Besides round count, he's really no more lethal, IMO, with an AR-15 than he is with a 9mm pistol. However, using the pistol is not going to limit the amount of rounds he's going to fire off, unless he has 1 loaded factory magazine..but what nutcase does that? Now, if he's in a tower somewhere picking people off from 50 yards or something, we're talking about something totally different. A pistol is obviously not all that lethal from 50 yards vs a long gun

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    Dont dodge the question.

    If you were in Colorado theater or this school, would you rather the psycho have semis or an assault rifle?
    What type of question is that?

    An assault rifle is an automatic rifle. They require a special license to own one. I think you mean "Assault Weapon." An assault weapon is a semi-automatic weapon as well. They just looks cooler than most.

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    But you are asking for a form of proof. Guns were never illegal in this country. If they were, then you'd have a good question when you ask "why should they be legal?".
    Do you think you're a lawyer or something? I'm asking for a justification of a lethal weapon's legality. When something has the purpose of inflicting damage or killing, there should be an accompanying justification for it be available to citizens not professionally trained in its use.

    Guns are not dangerous.

    I need to know your age range. I've debated a guy who used similar misconceptions as you and it turned out he was 16 years old and knew nothing of the terms he was applying. A knife is far more dangerous than a gun. It's always loaded. You bump a knife you could get cut. You can bump a gun and nothing happens. Guns are instruments that enable the user to exert deadly force on a target of his/her choosing. It's the choosing part that's dangerous if it's done improperly, as was the case in Connecticut. Until you can level out your hyperbolic terminology, discussion with you on this is going to go no where it hasn't already gone.
    How old are you? The CHOOSING is dangerous. Oh my god that was actually one of the best pieces of bull I have read here. A knife is more dangerous because it's always loaded! Brilliant. I'm literally standing up clapping.

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    Do you think you're a lawyer or something?
    Well, I ain't passed the Bar but I know a little bit...

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    Bull .

    If assault rifles arent legal, his mother doesnt buy one.
    Ok, why haven't you made them illegal?
    Unless this extremely bizarre and introverted kid has connections in a military black market, its HIGHLY UNLIKELY that he would have been able to get these weapons.
    So he could not get a semi-auto rifle or two semi-auto handguns or the shotgun? Really? Military black market? lol
    Thats not powerless. Thats systematically eliminating the availability of a lethal weapon to the general public.
    You are powerless to eliminate anything of the sort. I dare you to prove me wrong.
    The truth is, youre just incredibly selfish. All you care about is that you get to keep your guns, in spite of the fact that 20 kids got murdered. Youre just too chicken to admit it.
    I have a Cons utional right to keep and bear arms. I want to keep my Cons utional rights. I am not afraid to admit that.
    I hope they take away your guns and i hope you cry like the pussy that you are when they do it.
    Hope is all you have. You're powerless to effect change.

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    what the ???? Oc 's Razor? Applied to someone who is bat crazy????
    Umm....No.

    Not to the shooter...to someone trying to determine why he used an assault rifle (YOU). Oc s Razor says the most simplest explanation is probably correct. So dont over-complicate things as to his motives for using the assault rifle.

    He used it because he wanted to kill a lot of people and thats the most lethal weapon he had.

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    Do you think you're a lawyer or something? I'm asking for a justification of a lethal weapon's legality. When something has the purpose of inflicting damage or killing, there should be an accompanying justification for it be available to citizens not professionally trained in its use.
    The framers of the Cons ution and the United States Supreme Court disagree.

    How old are you? The CHOOSING is dangerous. Oh my god that was actually one of the best pieces of bull I have read here. A knife is more dangerous because it's always loaded! Brilliant. I'm literally standing up clapping.
    When it comes to the technicality of the term "dangerous", a sharp object is inherently more dangerous than a blunt one. For example, I am more dangerous than you.

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    Occam's ing Razor? Really? The simplest and best solution would have been for him to seek help instead of shooting a bunch of little kids, so your argument here is a failure....

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    Dont dodge the question.

    If you were in Colorado theater or this school, would you rather the psycho have semis or an assault rifle?
    Assault rifles are semis. Share more of your brilliance.

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    So he could not get a semi-auto rifle or two semi-auto handguns or the shotgun? Really? Military black market? lol
    No, he could not get these weapons on the black market. I can say with 99.9% confidence that this introverted, mentally unbalanced kid had absolutely ZERO ACCESS to the black market for military weapons in Newport Connnecticut.

    In fact, if "mom" didnt have any of these weapons, Im pretty sure 20 six year old kids would still be alive today.

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