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i think the spurs need a rebounder, tiago and timmy provide enough offense
This is my first thread...and like a good thread i have a question...maybe not a good one...we'll see.
So, if the Spurs get a big, what kind of big is better.
Assuming we get a big that can take a jumpshot, then he could play with Tiago and Duncan.
If the big cant shoot, then Tiago and this new big wont be able to play together (?).
Depending on the scenario, Tiago could be a starter with Duncan or be on the bench (assuming the new big starts with TD).
Then again Tiago is getting more minutes and he and the new big have to be able to play together, in that case the big has to take jumpshots. I wouldnt like having to bigs under the basket because neither of them can shoot.
Im pretty sure i could have wrote the same in half the sentences...ha (what the , im a german living in argentina with an italian nationality...)
So, what do you think about this?
i think the spurs need a rebounder, tiago and timmy provide enough offense
Rebounds and D
rebounder and defender, no question about it whatsoever.
Well... hm. I assume we want whichever leads to a higher point differential. If we lose more in offense than we gain in rebounding/defense, then getting a rebounder and defender is pointless.
I'll happily give up 4 more points per game, if we score 5 more points per game.
The Spurs will ride these soft, short pieces of (Blair, Bonner, Diaw) out like a real pf or C isnt what we need. I'd trade Neal(cuz im sure he's leaving after this summer), Blair, Bonner, an Cory J for whatever we can get that resemble a defensive pf. Demote Green, an keep Anderson since he knows the system an make him fight to prove himself over Green. Im sorry but ole Nobili is outta there too. Hes dam near washed up.
i agree that we are still missing a rebounding/defensive big but i'm a purist in the "team chemistry" belief this year. i mean, if a steal-of-a-deal comes along, i think the fo has no choice. But that would be for a pipe-dream type of trade. i'd like to see this squad gather some more team chemistry and despite the recent rocky road, i still really believe in this team... danny green, matt bonner and all.
How about trading for Royce White? He might get a long better with Pop than McHale.
If we want a "shooter", then we already have one sitting on the bench in the Red Rocket, tbh. I think we need a rebounder.
No personal disrespect, but you sound like a nieve fool. Did you see this team last yr in the playoffs. they had a whole summer to gel! An plus you never know which Manu your going to get. Its time for change. Tim cant keep carrying us.
I think that Pop playing Tim and Tiago together shows that he's ready to sacrifice the spacing, the problem is that Tiago doesn't defend that well especially PFs, making the twin tower maybe a bad compromise, like the worst of both world. A big with no range so no spacing but who can't provide outstanding defense either...
Boris is not any better because he a stretch 4 who can defend relatively well but won't shoot so he doesn't provide any spacing really. Our bigs rotation leaves a lot to be desired...
The difference between Boris and Tiago is not that big and clear to me.
I'd take a monkeyballer who can defend/rebound. A guy like Derrick Williams would be very intriguing, he has the athleticism to defend well and could even be a factor offensively.
I really question Tiago at PF, he has never impressed me defending PFs with any range, even the slower ones like Pau Gasol. I will make some people mad but I'd seriously consider trading high on him. He's too good to be a back up center and at the same time he's not a great fit so his value is wasted. I believe he's an UFA at the end of the season if I'm not mistaken so it would not be that easy to trade him either...
TD puts up monster stats and you think the Tiago and Tim lineup doesn't work?I think that Pop playing Tim and Tiago together shows that he's ready to sacrifice the spacing, the problem is that Tiago doesn't defend that well especially PFs, making the twin tower maybe a bad compromise, like the worst of both world. A big with no range so no spacing but who can't provide outstanding defense either...
Boris is not any better because he a stretch 4 who can defend relatively well but won't shoot so he doesn't provide any spacing really
The difference between Boris and Tiago is not that big and clear to me.
I'd take a monkeyballer who can defend/rebound. A guy like Derrick Williams would be very intriguing, he has the athleticism to defend well and could even be a factor offensively.
I really question Tiago at PF, he has never impressed me defending PFs with any range, even the slower ones like Pau Gasol. I will make some people mad but I'd seriously consider trading high on him. He's too good to be a back up center and at the same time he's not a great fit so his value is wasted. I believe he's an UFA at the end of the season if I'm not mistaken so it would not be that easy to trade him either...
We made the conference finals with that team.
IMHO this is the ceiling for a team with no superstar.
The real problem is that the Big 3 is not as good as it once was.
I see a lot of name proposed but none of these guys is really better than what we already have.
If you want someone who can make a difference in the playoffs, you need to go for a high caliber big, a clear upgrade over Diaw/Splitter.
I am afraid we don't have the assets for that.
So yes, maybe the best plan is to stick with what we have and hope that Tim will play has he has been lately and that Manu/Tony will be in top form.
1)Blair started in the last 2 seasons, did u miss that?I think that Pop playing Tim and Tiago together shows that he's ready to sacrifice the spacing, the problem is that Tiago doesn't defend that well especially PFs, making the twin tower maybe a bad compromise, like the worst of both world. A big with no range so no spacing but who can't provide outstanding defense either...
Boris is not any better because he a stretch 4 who can defend relatively well but won't shoot so he doesn't provide any spacing really
The difference between Boris and Tiago is not that big and clear to me.
I'd take a monkeyballer who can defend/rebound. A guy like Derrick Williams would be very intriguing, he has the athleticism to defend well and could even be a factor offensively.
I really question Tiago at PF, he has never impressed me defending PFs with any range, even the slower ones like Pau Gasol. I will make some people mad but I'd seriously consider trading high on him. He's too good to be a back up center and at the same time he's not a great fit so his value is wasted. I believe he's an UFA at the end of the season if I'm not mistaken so it would not be that easy to trade him either...
2)Aldridge/Gasol/Randolph disagree.
Aggressive/defensive big.
that's what i'm saying, it's not like we can just nab any player we want. realistically, this is the best shot we have at doing anything. It's not like knicks are on the phone with us about tyson chandler or anything
no disrespect taken but here's my question to you: who's your bright idea for a trade? give me 3 good reasons why any team in this league would want bonner, green, ginobili or neal, packaged or separate. why on earth would the knicks give up tyson chandler for any of those guys? some magic trade isn't going to happen. it's not naive, it's realism my friend
I agree. I don't think that the Spurs can trade for any proven young(or old) athletic and productive(or even just productive) big man, as of right now.
This may sound stupid but I think the Spurs best chances of getting their next big man, is to try to get someone from the d-league really developed or getting some talent from overseas. I don't think a trade would be on our side.
no need for anything really, it would only matter if we could land a young stud which we can't.
We need Diaw to play like he gives a damn! Diaw and Duncan starting with Splitter being Ducan's backup or sharing time on the court together is the recipe for sucess. The team sucks when the stretch 4 doesn't prove to be a reliable threat. I'm starting to wonder did he forget that the point of the game of basketball was to get buckets!! He's stinking up the joint right now and making it harder for us to get good looks......WHEN HE'S THE ONE WIDE OPEN!!!
It seems as if once another player on the team improves (Splitter) another one chooses to take a step backwards! (Diaw)
What are we looking for here?
Do we want another big because we only have TD and TS? Or are we looking for an upgrade in the starter line-up?
So my question is:
Would you trade for another player exactly like Splitter? So we will have 3 Bigs (TD, TS and TS"2").
Or the only thing that can help the Spurs are players like Kevin Love?
Whoa, stop right there. He called you nieve, not naive. It's the French version of nueve.
No it's not
There are players around the league that can rebound an shoot. The problem is the Spurs trading for 1 an Pop letting them play. Im not in for trading Tiago away though. The we got, id rather beg Dice back, find Oberto (which I believes has a hi bbiq an knows how to move without the ball), an trade Neal, Bonner, Blair for whatever. Green if needed . Send they're asses to Detroit for Gordon an a that tall fake Tayshun prince guy. Austin Daye, yea him.
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