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Tony Parker is the fastest player in the NBA, or was last season. He was (probably still is) faster to the rim than Westbrook. Westbrook obviously elevates better, but does that really offset Parker's *years* of getting into the paint and drawing contact?
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You're honestly telling me that Kevin Martin, Cuttino Mobley, Michael Redd, Ray Allen, Sam Cassell, and Larry Hughes all deserve to shoot more FTs than Tony Parker?
When you elevate you'll draw more fouls. Parker plays on the floor. He's not dunking on, over, through, or around anyone. Westbrook does. Defenses know RW is going straight to the rim. They know if the shot is not challenged aggressively he's dunking it. The fact that RW makes ONE more trip to the foul line every game than Parker is really nothing to write home about. I can't speak to the other players you mentioned
First of all, it's 6.1 vs 4.4 this season. Secondly, it's the law of averages. 1.7 trips per line at a 78% conversion rate translates to 108 extra points per season. You think that might influence the final score of a game or five? Not to mention wins that it pushes out of reach of the opponent, could force them to take bad shots near the end of a game (a 5 point lead vs a 3 or 4 point lead), or gets the opposing big men in foul trouble. 1.7 FTA per game is a huge difference.
But your theory that WB gets to the line more because he's more athletic really falls apart when you consider just how athletic Parker is and then combine it with the above list. It just makes no sense at all.
Westbrook is shooting 1.7 more free throws per game because he gets legitimately fouled more due to the reasons I've mentioned. And ok it's LESS than 1 trip per game then. A trip= 2 FTs. you want to argue that Westbrooks style of offense and ability to attack the rim wouldn't realistically result in getting fouled more?
I'm wondering how you could make the argument that Sam Cassell or Ray Allen's game awards them more free throws than Tony Parker has ever had in a season. And yes, I would argue that for his career, Parker penetrates and gets into the lane more than WB, who shoots a ton of long-range jumpers and falls in love with his 3 point attempts regularly, so it should at minimum even out.
Parker is not even in the same ballpark as Westbrook in terms of athleticism. He's quick on his feet. That's it. Are you seriously debatin this concept? I don't know that I've ever seen tony Parker dunk the ball. I know he has but it's just not his game. He's shooting floaters, etc. you won't draw as many fouls doing that
im wondering where in the I even mentioned Sam cassell or ray Allen. I'm comparing Westbrooks style to Parker's. and again he's going to the line less than one time a game!
I realize you have only been watching the NBA for four years, but are you aware that Parker has led the NBA in points in the paint in the past? Anyone who claims Parker doesn't draw a ton of contact in the pain has never, ever, EVER watched him play. Seriously, watch before you speak. "But zomg RW is so athletic!" Ok. Let me know when he leads the NBA in points in the paint as a guard.
Usain Bolt isn't athletic because he's just "quick on his feet".
If you can't understand the line I'm drawing between comparison of drawing fouls, I don't know what to tell you. I'm making comparisons just like you, the only difference is I'm actually supporting mine with numbers. Using athleticism as a basis for free throws awarded kind of goes out the window when you include the above players.
Yeah. How's Parker scoring those points in the paint? Floaters dude. He's crafty. He avoids contact. Get over yourself. Westbrook takes it down the pipe. He's balls to the wall. He gets hammered more. Quit your damn crying. I've watched the NBA for 20 years. Only near the court in person for the last 4.
Westbrick gets half his fouls when he plunges out of control towards the basket. Simple.
Westbrook has more shot attempts at the rim. Look it up. And I'll guarantee you the presence of a defender doesn't deter him from the attempt. Parker's at rim shot attempts are going to be more evasive and crafty. Dude isn't going at anyone. He's fantastic at it but his shot style lends itself to less fouls
Yeah well I guess when Westbrook is rewarded for effectively jumping and running over people why wouldn't he take advantage of it
beat me to it
This thread has the potential for epicness if the Thunder get down a game or two in the playoffs.
Starting a thread with bump potential?
First in the west ....... POOOF !!
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Good bump
Harden: 46 Pts, 8 Reb, 6 Ast, 1 Stl, 1 Blk
Was just about to go fishing for this thread, tbh.
Refsbrook is better because he's more athletic.Good bump
Harden: 46 Pts, 8 Reb, 6 Ast, 1 Stl, 1 Blk
Contenders don't lose 3 in a row.
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