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    There are parts of downtown SF that do smell like urine. It is really noticeable when it's the first rain after being dry for a while.
    The same as any big city including Portland.

    Maybe you piss on yourself so much, you don't notice. You might simply be used to the smell...
    You really think that joke is effective after I made the exact same joke?

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    Exactly. When I lived in California, I lived in a good part. I sure as didn't brag about being a couple hours away from 70 miles SE of Fresno.
    This explains a lot..so you're one of those trendy liberal s who are moving to austin to try to bankrupt our state like you bankrupted california. why don't you stay over there and reap what you sew got..real Texan s got somethin for that ass soon homeboy, just watch.

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    This explains a lot..so you're one of those trendy liberal s who are moving to austin to try to bankrupt our state like you bankrupted california.
    I was born in Texas and lived here more than 90% of my life.
    why don't you stay over there and reap what you sew got..real Texan s got somethin for that ass soon homeboy, just watch.
    Quit coming on to me.

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    California's economy was fine before Bill Clinton's laissez-faire idea of deregulated energy left it at the mercy of Enron.

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    Cen-Cal

    most conservative area in america outside the deep south

    boring, awful place to live

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    I'm not saying Portland has more. That would be wrong. From a practical point, California is not a self sufficient state. Nearly all their energy, they bring in from other states. They have a really ed up financial situation as well. The only thing Oregon lacks that I can think of is fuel for cars, trucks, oil furnaces, etc. We have a huge underground natural gas pipe, but I don't know if it is an Oregon source, or elsewhere. I think it comes from a tap in the side of the mountain. Three powerful hydroelectric dams for electricity, nearly all of which currently gets sent to Los Angeles. We have several smaller hydroelectric dams as well.

    What good are the additional universities and entertainment if most the population has no electricity or transportation?
    Oregon is the Arkansas of the NW

    More white trash than any other state outside the deep south... by a long shot

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    This explains a lot..so you're one of those trendy liberal s who are moving to austin to try to bankrupt our state like you bankrupted california. why don't you stay over there and reap what you sew got..real Texan s got somethin for that ass soon homeboy, just watch.

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    Oregon is the Arkansas of the NW

    More white trash than any other state outside the deep south... by a long shot
    Really?

    have you ever been here?

    I call Portland the capital of the North-Left coast.

    Now if you are using the term "white trash" like I think you are, then you are wrong.

    What do you mean by "white trash?"

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    m>s and WC.

    Sittin' a tree.

    Smellin' like pee.

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    kickin chump in the tee tee hee hee

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    kickin chump in the tee tee hee hee
    By incorrectly declaring I was from California?

    CROFL

    My is hard to miss, but you managed to miss it completely.

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    you reek of california. you belonged there..look into going back asap. your kind won't be welcome here soon.

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    you reek of california. you belonged there..look into going back asap. your kind won't be welcome here soon.
    Man, the holidays are when you miss your foreskin most of all, m>s.


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    Really?

    have you ever been here?

    I call Portland the capital of the North-Left coast.

    Now if you are using the term "white trash" like I think you are, then you are wrong.

    What do you mean by "white trash?"
    Yes, multiple times

    Portland is a cool town and the state is beautiful, but it's filled with the dumbest, beardiest, flanneliest, meth-mouthed, trailer-dwelling, canned-beer drinking, log-truck driving, hillbilly rednecks west of the Mississippi.

    The people there, as you and TLongII both reinforce on a daily basis, have the biggest inferiority complex to californians I've ever seen. You also get butthurt incredibly easily when somebody actually tells the truth about your state.

    It has its redeeming qualities, don't get me wrong, but to even talk about Oregon in the same breath as Cali is laughable. Just accept that your state basically copies everything california does (wine, craft beer etc) and doesn't do as good of a job at itPERIOD.

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    Let me amend that by saying the deep south states (west of the ms river) + Oklahoma are worse than Oregon (excluding Texas)


    But only marginally

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    Sorry senor but plenty of deep south states east of the MS river are also worse than Oregon

    Portland is one of the worst cities I've ever been to though, and it's amazing how people from Oregon are so repulsive compared to people from Seattle. True story, the one person I ever met from Portland who seemed cool ended up being a fugitive wanted on 3 counts of murder who was working at the same place I was with a fake ID and a bull iden y.

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    Sorry senor but plenty of deep south states east of the MS river are also worse than Oregon

    Portland is one of the worst cities I've ever been to though, and it's amazing how people from Oregon are so repulsive compared to people from Seattle. True story, the one person I ever met from Portland who seemed cool ended up being a fugitive wanted on 3 counts of murder who was working at the same place I was with a fake ID and a bull iden y.
    I was only talking about states west of the MS river... Of course there are worse states to the east

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    I like Portland, but SF and Seattle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Portland

    , Vancouver >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Portland

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    The thing that always amuses me the most about this argument is that California is the third largest state in the country and is incredibly diverse in terms of its geography, population density, and culture. It's a massive state, which not even I fully realized/appreciated until I moved away a couple years ago. In the time it would take me to drive from San Diego to Humboldt County, going just along the coast, I could go on a road trip here that would take me through nine or ten states. And in that drive you'd hit everything from arid desert, to rough mountains, to coastal redwoods; from congested urban cities to empty rural farmland. So whatever complaint (or praise, for that matter) a person may have about a particular city or region in California, it doesn't apply to the whole state. While a number of the stereotypes may be true of a particular city or region, you can drive two hours in any direction and I guarantee those stereotypes will no longer be true.

    It's something I'd expect more Texans to understand, frankly, considering how drastically that state also changes from border to border.

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    Yes, multiple times

    Portland is a cool town and the state is beautiful, but it's filled with the dumbest, beardiest, flanneliest, meth-mouthed, trailer-dwelling, canned-beer drinking, log-truck driving, hillbilly rednecks west of the Mississippi.

    The people there, as you and TLongII both reinforce on a daily basis, have the biggest inferiority complex to californians I've ever seen. You also get butthurt incredibly easily when somebody actually tells the truth about your state.

    It has its redeeming qualities, don't get me wrong, but to even talk about Oregon in the same breath as Cali is laughable. Just accept that your state basically copies everything california does (wine, craft beer etc) and doesn't do as good of a job at itPERIOD.
    Yes, we have been "Californicated." That is a term used here long before the series ever aired. Inferiority complex? No. Yes, we have a large drug using homeless population which, thanks to the liberal city council, enables.

    Butthurt over what others say? Well, I guess that's a matter of perspective. This state definitely has it's share of flaws. I will never deny that. What state doesn't? If you are going to say that California doesn't have even more flaws, then I say you are in denial.

    This is still a very good state, overall. 30 years ago, before we were californicated, it was a far better state than today.

    Seriously though, under the pretense of the OP, where would California get it's electrical needs for it's population?

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    Let me amend that by saying the deep south states (west of the ms river) + Oklahoma are worse than Oregon (excluding Texas)


    But only marginally
    LOL...

    Oklahoma marginally worse...

    . I would class Oklahoma as the worse state I have visited!

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    The thing that always amuses me the most about this argument is that California is the third largest state in the country and is incredibly diverse in terms of its geography, population density, and culture. It's a massive state, which not even I fully realized/appreciated until I moved away a couple years ago. In the time it would take me to drive from San Diego to Humboldt County, going just along the coast, I could go on a road trip here that would take me through nine or ten states. And in that drive you'd hit everything from arid desert, to rough mountains, to coastal redwoods; from congested urban cities to empty rural farmland. So whatever complaint (or praise, for that matter) a person may have about a particular city or region in California, it doesn't apply to the whole state. While a number of the stereotypes may be true of a particular city or region, you can drive two hours in any direction and I guarantee those stereotypes will no longer be true.

    It's something I'd expect more Texans to understand, frankly, considering how drastically that state also changes from border to border.
    I have to admit, I like most of norther California. I could call it the Southern Oregon, but wouldn't that be like calling Oklahoma, norther Texas?

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    LOL...

    Oklahoma marginally worse...

    . I would class Oklahoma as the worse state I have visited!
    If Oregon didn't have the abundance of natural beauty + Portland then it would more or less = Oklahoma --- Same caliber of white trash with an affinity for meth, gun racks, and dirt

    Oh, Oregon has much better buds, so I guess there's that, too

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    Yes, I would agree that Oklahoma is the worst state in the nation

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    Yes, I would agree that Oklahoma is the worst state in the nation
    It's a toss up between that and Arkansas for me.

    And all the parts of South Dakota that aren't the Black Hills or the Badlands.

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