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Only if we believe that we cant win this year... because this trade seems to be future oriented. I'd be happier packaging our 1st, Neal, and someone else to try and snag Jordan Hill from the Lakers.
Would you trade G. Neal to Washington Wizards for their 2nd round pick at 31? We would get a trade exception. Washington would do this as Price has a broken hand and Wall is still out with his knee, leaving them with only S. Livingston as a true(?) PG. Gary would give them much needed scoring. Playing along side of jordan Crawford they would split ball handling duties. Neal is still young. Washington gives up NONE of their young assets.
Spurs do it because they would get the 31st pick in the draft. We need a young big to play beside Kawhi, Splitter and De Colo. Patty Mills fills the role of instant offense from the bench that Neal has done. We would have a late 1st pick and 1st pick of the 2nd to fill our future needs.
Only if we believe that we cant win this year... because this trade seems to be future oriented. I'd be happier packaging our 1st, Neal, and someone else to try and snag Jordan Hill from the Lakers.
In the latest Spurs Insider Gary says he wants to remain a spurs, as much as I can be frustrated with him at times, he has paid his dues and got better every year since he got here, I would resign him.
Source :
http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/121223_insider
Would be hard to find a better player than Gary in the 2nd. Manus are the exceptions defiantly not the rule.
Throw them couple W, they need them badly
No. We can't get anything with Neal's trade exception and 31st pick isn't enticing.
No. Neal gives us a lot of range and 3 point shooting. Without him this team is much less deadly from range. He's just in a funk, nothing more.
You should find a new hobby beyond watching basketball.
I'm shocked that a Spurs-Wizards trade thread doesn't even mention Nene or Okafor.
Oops, now it does.
Spurs may as well trade him now, yes he provides instant offense SOMETIMES however he is terrible defensively. The chances of a team overpaying for him is very high as well, might as well get something for him now rather than nothing at all. If the Spurs are serious about returning to a great defensive team he's gotta go. Let De Colo/Mills take over his mins and the Spurs will be fine.
No.
The only three scenarios I'd do this trade are:
1) Something happens to dash San Antonio's championship hopes. Granted, they are a long-shot as it is but they remain one of the few teams with a legit chance. That alone is worth salvaging.
2) Neal falls behind De Colo and Mills in the depth chart. It's unlikely but I guess not entirely impossible.
3) He pouts and demands a trade after his minutes go back to being limited.
The first option would be to trade Neal in a package for a big. If that doesn't happen, dumping him for a pretty good asset isn't horrible.
Obviously, let's hope it doesn't come to that. Neal has his limitations (thus why he's a role player) but he can create his own shots and he can carry the offense for stretches of a time ... two attributes that make him valuable to the Spurs, especially when they are dealing with injuries.
Man, there's no need to get a trade exception for a contract that small. And there's no guarantee that that would be the top pick in the second. Washington sucks, but with Neal in the fold, Wall returning and their big men, who knows what type of run they can go on? There's no reason to salary dump Neal. He's way too important to just give away. And I say that as a poster who tries to include him in every trade scenario.
Neal is a tough one. Hes on a bargain deal and his play has mandated a significantly larger contract. Minimum wage is clearly too little money to legitimately pay this guy. Plus with many of the new additions hes an extra asset that could easily lose time as other guys develop (De Colo, Joseph) etc). I'm not sure where he fits next season - even if Mills walks.
But hes an asset this season for certain. So do we move him for something while we can? Do we plan on resigning him - even understanding that hes due at least a modest raise? Or do we play him this season and anticipate that he walks?
Neal hits big shots. If we are vying for a le run, he doesn't go anywhere unless its in a package deal where we acquire the best player in the deal
Seriously how is Gary Neal better than a player like Daquean Cook? A Cook doesn't play that much because he's bad defensively. Neal's probably worse and probably not as good a shooter.
Cook is a career 37.4% shooter from the field and a 36.5% shoot on threes. Neal is 44.2% and 40.9%. Neal also scores ~30% more points per minute and hands out nearly twice as many assists. There's no case that can be made that Cook > Neal or even Cook = Neal.
Plus as much as Gary is a local in DC,man you don't trade someone who's been that good for you to the Wizards,seriously thats just a move and NOT CLASSYtrading anyone to the Wizards is graveyard move.
And thats comin from a former DC native who had free tickets and gave 'em away most of the time and couldnt even give 'em away sometimes..Wizards whole organization is AWFUL.I was hoping when parking Lot Lord Pollin finally bit the dust there'd be a ray of hope but nah,he passed the torch to another cheapskate owner trying to field two major sports team with minimal $$$.
And so it goes......
Ok since you dont want to part with Neal and will continue to bash him, how about trading Patty Mills instead. Same reason apply. Or do we just sit on our hands and do nothing till Timmy leaves for retirement. This team was built thru the draft and cheap free agents. What do we do? I guess we pray Timmy plays until he is 50 for some of you folks.
Yes I would, Neal is a great scorer but is becoming Roger Mason Jr. He is 1-D and isn't scoring the ball nearly as efficiently as he was. Having a 1st rounder (26th sounds about right and a 31st pick would help the spurs slowly transition their roster from the big 3. Those two picks could even be packaged with another player for a higher pick in the draft. Good Trade Idea.
He hits big shots but that doesn't really make him clutch. Green is just as big shot capable and has played great defense late. Neal has also missed a ton of clutch Free Throws.
Their 3-19 and Wall may not be able to go until January. I thought they were a playoff push if Wall was healthy but its kind of late for that unless they go on a like 20-3 run. Its going to be a high second rounder and that is usually the most attractive type of picks high talent, extremely cheap deals, Neal is a RFA and could recieve a contract similar to Green's deal.
If the Spurs are going to do a trade with the Wizards I would much rather them trade Dejuan Blair and Gary Neal for Kevin Seraphin.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c4kvcz2
Highlights:
http://youtu.be/xhKqLZX0GKo
http://youtu.be/KJz97nQQrqw
http://youtu.be/GuR0U3_iS2E
Why the Wizards should do the trade:
In Gary Neal they get a three point threat that they lost when Rashard Lewis went to the Heats. Teaming him up with Beal and Wall would probably give Neal lots of open shots. In Dejuan Blair they get a big who can rebound and score, which helps with the hole left by trading Seraphin. But the main reason why the Wizards would do the trade is because both Blair and Neal have one year left in the contract while Seraphin has two years left. Last year, there seemed to be a need for expiring contracts.
Why the Spurs should do the trade:
Seraphin is 6 foot 9 which gives him two inches over Blair, but with the length and hops, he would give the Spurs a shot blocking threat that Blair never was. He also has the body to bang low with the Gasol brothers, Garnett, etc. But the main reason why the Spurs should get him is because he has a consistent shot from 10-15 foot out. You can see in the highlights that half of his shots are from that range. When he does bang low, he uses a soft hook to shoot over the bigs. This would work well with every big we have. When on the court with Tiago, Seraphin would be high post, with Diaw, he would be low post, with Duncan, they can change between low and high post. I didn't count Bonner because he is in there for one reason only, shoot threes.
FYI
The same trade can be used for Larry Sanders, but I chose Kevin Seraphin because he is a better scorer beyond 10 foot out.
The Spurs are not the ones holding up a Neal and Blair for Seraphin or Sanders deal, I can assure you. And who cares if Neal is going to get a Green-like deal in the offseason? That's really not bad value. There's no reason to trade him in order to avoid paying him. The Spurs have tons of cap room, and they probably won't be actually signing anyone major anyway.
do the spurs land any major free agents this coming summer? who should they pursue? do they have the cash to pay a great player?
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