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    No. I said who was doing it now -- which is you.

    Other people have done it and people will do it, but right now it's just you.
    You just live for the petty bickering about mundane .

    Here's how it went:

    You: people think wrong things about me

    me: That should tell you something

    you: it's not me it's them

    me: sure, it's them not you

    you: no, right now it's you

    Your last "no" was moving the goal posts. We were discussing how people gang up on you and misunderstand you, and how that's a reflection of you. You then denied that by saying "no" followed by moving the goal posts with "right now it's you" (paraphrasing).

    Now move on, goal post mover. You're misunderstood on here, probably a savant that walks the fine line between genius and re .

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    Private sellers IS an example of the gunshow loophole.
    No . That's not a loophole, idiot, that's a restriction on private sellers. If I sell my gun, I am not allowed to gain any background information on you. Were I allowed to do so, I wouldn't have a problem running a a background check on anyone buying a gun. It's just not within my rights, because I am not an FFL SOT dealer. Do you want everyone to be able to check anyone else out through the FBI database? Or do you want private owners to not be able to sell without going through a dealer? That would require registering existing firearms, a daunting task and a tipping of the eventual ban hat to the NRA folks. There is no record of who owns what firearm in most cases. There's no way to force registration. There's no way to police sales. Gun show sales are no different than putting an ad in the paper or selling to your hunting buddy. They are all not tracked. The fact a convicted felon can acquire a gun should be enough to illustrate to you that gun laws do nothing to prevent criminals from getting guns.
    The gun seller regulations must require that a seller be fully vetted, qualified, and licensed, insured, and re-registered/licensed annually.
    How do you police that on unregistered firearms? Don't just give me a problem, suggest a working solution, one that makes sense.
    DMC is a mass murderer apologist, with mass murders simply the collateral damage of the insane proliferation of guns to unvetted buyers.
    You are one who would strip the public of it's cons utional rights to keep and bear arms just so you can feel safer in your piss puddle of ignorance.

    BTW

    Seven states require background checks on all gun sales at gun shows (California, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Oregon, New York, Illinois and Colorado).
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    You just live for the petty bickering about mundane .

    Here's how it went:

    You: people think wrong things about me

    me: That should tell you something

    you: it's not me it's them

    me: sure, it's them not you

    you: no, right now it's you

    Your last "no" was moving the goal posts. We were discussing how people gang up on you and misunderstand you, and how that's a reflection of you. You then denied that by saying "no" followed by moving the goal posts with "right now it's you" (paraphrasing).

    Now move on, goal post mover. You're misunderstood on here, probably a savant that walks the fine line between genius and re .
    Wow, there's a whole bunch of straw in there, too.

    You are perfectly illustrating what I described above tbh. Hilariously so. You are so completely worked up that you're just blathering about me now. I've seen it happen so many times before -- but yeah, you're the only one doing it here at this time. Not every individual does it all the time and not every person who has done it has done it all the time -- including you. It does say something about me. I make people angry sometimes.

    Now move on, angry guy. You're angry with me here, you might not be later but you probably will be for the duration of these gun posts where you never even read the answers I explicitly gave to your questions that were not based on your silly straw arguments you developed out of anger.

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    Lack of funding, lack of interest, ADD American population, maintaining the flow of wealth from the middle class to the 1%.
    So nothing will really be done.

    OK, that's what I predicted.

    You should think about that the before you get so angry.

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    Teachers aren't going to be forced to carry guns. You only have a few rational choices, and armed teachers aren't one of them. Mental health issues do need to be revisited, but there's no reason to include options that aren't feasible.

    Like always though, your responses indicate you are completely disconnected from the topic and just going for shock value of some off the wall statement. Stick to your original screen name, at lease some of your takes are decent there.
    no, no one is gonna force them to carry guns. they have the right to make the decision for themselves whether to carry guns or not and the right should be held in the hands of their own rather than the government or the police, let alone an old lonely immigrant who doesn't know even how to pull the ing trigger imho. and i have no idea from what angle you've seen deploying cops to schools being a more feasible option than allowing teachers to carry guns at school to protect the kids and themselves. one or two cops ain't gonna ensure the security of the entire campus and they ain't gonna deter when/if the criminal is poised to die with the victims under his gun fire.

    mental disorders exist widely among the population and maybe your right they need more care and welfare but there's no way you could keep guns away from them imho, and im not gonna stick to the same username only to look like a pathetic lonely got with a total post count of 22,725 and counting.

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    So nothing will really be done.

    OK, that's what I predicted.

    You should think about that the before you get so angry.
    You using the "you mad" card again. You've worn that er out in your 72K posts.

    However, something will be done. There will be more guns sold in the three months following the shooting in Connecticut than sold in the previous year. Congrats liberals for increasing the number of guns across America. On gun and hunting websites all over the internet you see hi cap mags for AR-15s for sale, and people are buying them. They aren't being sold in fear of becoming illegal, but because they can now fetch a premium. AR-15 rifles are selling like hotcakes. The gun show in Austin was crazy, everyone buying all this hi cap and evil features for their AR-15 rifles.

    Good work. Nothing drives gun sales like talk of new gun restrictions.

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    no, no one is gonna force them to carry guns. they have the right to make the decision for themselves whether to carry guns or not and the right should be held in the hands of their own rather than the government or the police, let alone an old lonely immigrant who doesn't know even how to pull the ing trigger imho. and i have no idea from what angle you've seen deploying cops to schools being a more feasible option than allowing teachers to carry guns at school to protect the kids and themselves. one or two cops ain't gonna ensure the security of the entire campus and they ain't gonna deter when/if the criminal is poised to die with the victims under his gun fire.

    mental disorders exist widely among the population and maybe your right they need more care and welfare but there's no way you could keep guns away from them imho, and im not gonna stick to the same username only to look like a pathetic lonely got with a total post count of 22,725 and counting.
    If you don't know if a teacher is carrying, you don't know if you have any recourse. School systems will want recourse, to be able to say they have a system in place to mitigate a situation quickly should one develop, or to deter the act in the first place. They cannot make such a claim about armed teachers, parents will go nuts.

    Do you have any common sense?

    You have to have a solution that works for all parties. CHL is a personal defense choice, it has nothing to do with protecting school children.

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    lol

    Paranoid about a gun in your home at night with intent to kill you? lol... what's the average response time for a police officer in your town? Do you think you and the perp can play chess until the cop arrives?
    so why do you count on cops to protect schools? cops ain't gonna get there in time to exchange fire with the gunner cuz it would put their own lives in danger even if their office is within 100 yards of the crime scene, it often takes them quite a few minutes to get their revolves loaded and shoes tied, and they will make sure the criminal has run out of ammo and has already killed himself with the last bullet before they actually arrive at the scene

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    You using the "you mad" card again. You've worn that er out in your 72K posts.
    It's not like no one else can get mad.

    And post count smack is a good sign.

    However, something will be done. There will be more guns sold in the three months following the shooting in Connecticut than sold in the previous year. Congrats liberals for increasing the number of guns across America. On gun and hunting websites all over the internet you see hi cap mags for AR-15s for sale, and people are buying them. They aren't being sold in fear of becoming illegal, but because they can now fetch a premium. AR-15 rifles are selling like hotcakes. The gun show in Austin was crazy, everyone buying all this hi cap and evil features for their AR-15 rifles.
    Of course. Business for my gun selling friends has been very good.

    Good work. Nothing drives gun sales like talk of new gun restrictions.
    So, what gun restrictions have I advocated here?

    List them.

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    If you don't know if a teacher is carrying, you don't know if you have any recourse. School systems will want recourse, to be able to say they have a system in place to mitigate a situation quickly should one develop, or to deter the act in the first place. They cannot make such a claim about armed teachers, parents will go nuts.

    Do you have any common sense?

    You have to have a solution that works for all parties. CHL is a personal defense choice, it has nothing to do with protecting school children.
    isn't it school's and teachers' duty to ensure the security of the kids while they're at school? you know you can't count on cops to protect your own properties so you have some guns at home, and the schools also need guns for the same reason.

    it'd only increase the security level when you have more responsible people carrying guns imho, and its not like teachers will use their guns to threaten the kids when their size and strength are enough to hold the kids honest.

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    so why do you count on cops to protect schools? cops ain't gonna get there in time to exchange fire with the gunner cuz it would put their own lives in danger even if their office is within 100 yards of the crime scene, it often takes them quite a few minutes to get their revolves loaded and shoes tied, and they will make sure the criminal has run out of ammo and has already killed himself with the last bullet before they actually arrive at the scene
    Try harder

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    It's not like no one else can get mad.

    And post count smack is a good sign.

    Of course. Business for my gun selling friends has been very good.

    So, what gun restrictions have I advocated here?

    List them.
    I've stated the facts that are undeniable. Disagreement doesn't change facts.

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    I've stated the facts that are undeniable. Disagreement doesn't change facts.
    So, what gun restrictions have I advocated here?

    List them.
    Go ahead.

    State those facts.

    Or is the internets tough gun guy afraid?

    Can't shoot your way out of this one.

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    Exactly. What is keeping anyone from doing both?
    <shrug>

    DMC hit some nails on the head though.

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    i HAVE A FACT....ONE OF THOSE KIDS WERE SHOT 11 TIMES. all YOU ERS.

    I was a tanker in the army. if the govt called me and said you have to man a tank to take semi-autos away from people I would do it. YOUR "MILITIA"

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    isn't it school's and teachers' duty to ensure the security of the kids while they're at school? you know you can't count on cops to protect your own properties so you have some guns at home, and the schools also need guns for the same reason.

    it'd only increase the security level when you have more responsible people carrying guns imho, and its not like teachers will use their guns to threaten the kids when their size and strength are enough to hold the kids honest.
    I'm pretty sure it's a teachers job to... you know, teach.

    Also, everyone's a "responsible" gun owner until they do something irresponsible with it.

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