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Jose Calderon has been on the trading block so many times...
Note:-someone posted A DMC thread earily in the week, not intentionally trying to bite just giving an update..
Not necessarily spurs related but...
"One source close to the situation said Friday that Andrea Bargnani remains "a lock to be moved." That naturally depends on finding a taker for the underachieving Italian forward, but Kyle Lowry's contract shouldn't be too hard to attach to a trade, valued at $5.8 million this season and with only $1 million guaranteed of the $6.2 million he's owed next season." ESPN
Calderon has also reported been on the trading block
The early word from the DeMarcus Cousins trade watch, according to the latest rumbles on the personnel grapevine, is that Kings co-owners Gavin and Joe Maloof remain reluctant in the extreme to part with their young big man, especially at a time when -- after three suspensions already this season -- Cousins' trade value isn't exactly on the upswing. There's a growing sense among potential suitors that under-fire Kings general manager Geoff Petrie, who has overseen zero trips to the playoffs under five coaches in the six-plus seasons since Rick Adelman left town, would be willing to move Cousins, preferably in exchange for a dependable veteran of quality or two who could bring some instant improvement to a franchise stuck in lottery land and still plagued by an uncertain future in terms of where this team will be calling home in the long term.
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Tyreke Evans or Jimmer Freddette also could be move in a deal with Cousins.
Would any one take a flyer one any one of them?
Jose Calderon has been on the trading block so many times...
Bargnani sure assuming we don't give up anyone worthwhile. Blair, Bonner, maybe a second round draft pick, etc. He played well last year when he was able to work in the midrange area but the Raptors completely changed the system this season so that they were basically playing him to shoot 3s, rebound, and play defense (none of which he's actually good at). On a team like the Spurs he could be a reliable 18+ scorer. The playoffs don't particularly phase him and he loves to win. He'd be an upgrade for our frontcourt as a legitimate 7 footer. The fact that he can get a shot off pretty much anywhere is also a plus. Pop's the kind of coach he'd flourish under because he knows how to coach offensive players while also getting guys like Neal to look average. As long as Bargs isn't providing help defense he should be relatively okay.
Cousins not so much. He's disruptive and a guy with his mental issues has no place on a contender at this point. Maybe once he mellows out. While neither he or Bargnani have been particularly efficient this year, I think a big part of the reason why the Spurs FO has done so well for itself is the fact that they've managed to avoid guys like Cousins over the years. I just don't think someone who is immature enough to confront Sean based on what someone else had told him is mentally stable enough to be a part of the Spurs. Blair drives me crazy as-is...Cousins would flat out make me crazy.
I say we get Bargnani just to see what timvp does. Maybe trade Leonard for him.
^Nice implied blue font.
Excuse me, have you hard about Stephen Jackson and his first two years with the Spurs?
but nothing! Well, any team in the west that fubar's their line-up should mean easier wins for the Good Guys, but that's about it.
He would be the Rolls Royce of stretch bigs but still really one dimensional.
Just a disclaimer so the teachers pets won't get up in arms.
wait. so let me get this straight. posters have been pleading for a "defensive big" with shot blocking ability and paint presence for who knows how long and now you guys are wanting to bring in andrea bargnani???!!!
please tell me "sarcastic blue" forgot to be applied to the text
The Spurs need a fourth big that can help shore up the frontcourt defense. I doubt Bargnani is going to want to be the fourth big wherever he goes. And he is not what the Spurs need at this moment-not even close. I sure as wouldn't want to play $23 million to a rich man's Matt Bonner.
Don't know much about him, I don't doubt what you say about his skillset. But it's always been my impression if you don't play help defense in SA you didn't play at all. AFAIK that's why it took Splitter so long to earn playing time. Also, the SA offense really doesn't feature long 2-pt jump shots IMO.
Bargnano, the ultimate anti-Spur? No thanks.
There is no trade for Andrea that makes any sense for the Spurs. I'll never understand how people who moan and groan about Bonner want to acquire a guy who can't rebound or defend as well as Bonner and gets paid three times as much.
Because he's a better one on one defender (Bonner has been, in play offs, the target of every opposite team).
Because his offensive skills are way more than three point shooting.
And finally because he's a real 7 footer than, if well coached in a specific role and with a good motivation, could still become a very good player.
The talent is still there (otherwise he could have never been a decent 1 draft choice).
I would rather see a blind player on the Spurs than Bargnani.
This is what I was thinking. That is some dumb logic.
Bargnani does nothing outside of shooting. He's not worthy of his contract. He doesn't have the ability to defend the post or the block. He's severely a one dimensional player with little impact. For his cap hit, no thanks.
If Andrea was any of that, the Raps wouldn't be so ready to offload him.
Jax is a thuggish dude who will stop at nothing to protect his teammates.
Cousins is a moron who will stop at nothing to protect his fragile ego.
One can work within a team concept. The other needs to mellow out and mature.
I'm not convinced that this applies to stretch 4s in Pop's system. But that's a good point.
Don't get me wrong. I don't actually want either of them on the Spurs. Just saying that Bargnani could be a good player in Pop's system whereas Cousins would be a headache from start to finish. Bargnani>Bonner, Blair so that in itself is an upgrade to our frontcourt. Plus he has a tendency to take on the qualities of the bigs around him. That said, we're speaking in pure hypotheticals and Bargs isn't my ideal for the Spurs.
Of course they would. They're incompetent. Drafting, free agent signing, contracts (Bargs being a good example of that), coaching, etc. And marketing often takes priority over winning ball games. Toronto has a very different culture from San Antonio as a ball club although bringing in Casey was a good step.
Bargs has played badly this season for the most part but the talent is definitely there. As I said in my first post, the Raptors changed the system this season and forced him to play to his weaknesses. Put him on a different team with a defined role and he'll produce.
For the record though, I want the Spurs to target guys like Gortat or Amir Johnson. Bargnani's definitely *not* the player that the Spurs need and I didn't mean to give that impression.
Last edited by TheSkeptic; 12-30-2012 at 04:18 PM.
LOL, Bargnani is a worthless piece of . How does Toronto think they're moving that garbage contract?
he's a real 7 footer
I'd literally trade Bargnani for a 10 million dollar bag of Skittles.
Good luck with that; a 10 million pound bag of turds is closer to his market value.
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