Big East left out of the power conferences in 2014

[Homeland Security]

Sure, they'll say all those things if they bolt. What I'm saying though is that they're not going to bolt unless someone from the NC/VA bunch does so first.

And what I'm saying is that UVa kinda already is.

As is Georgia Tech. GT may be announced as the 15th member next week.

[NFO]

The question I would have regarding Delany's thinking is, why would you want to add a conference member by hostile takeover?

Can't really answer what Delany is thinking. Maybe just to show ND that he is a more powerful player in college footbal than Notre Dame.

How does it help the conference if its most valuable member is only there because it was forced to be there by the Machiavellian machinations of the conference commissioner?

It would help becasue it would bring more $$$ for the network. IF Notre Dame were to join any conference that conference's network would be able to reach more significantly more providers than it would have if ND never joined.

Wouldn't one of the first orders of business for ND be to ruin Jim Delany's life, and since they're ND, will they not in fact have the power to do so?

Not sure ND would have any more say than Ohio State and Michigan IF it were in the B1G. How would ND even go about ruining Delany's life anyway? Not let him on campus, put a hit on him? That is purely hypothetical but would be interesting to watch IF ND ever joined the B1G, by force or free will, probably by force.

[Homeland Security]

Georgia Tech may be announced as the 15th member of the B1G next week.

[NFO]

Exactly how much more

Published reports have said Maryland stands to make $100 million more in its first five years in the Big Ten than it would have made in a new TV agreement between the ACC and ESPN.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1445262

[MannyIsGod]

LOL Welcome back home, SDSU and BSU. Thanks for the exit fees!

[coyotes_geek]

Frustrated the Big East has irreparably damaged its basketball brand with recent additions geared toward saving its football future, the presidents of the league's seven non-high level football schools met Wednesday to discuss their options.

An ESPN.com report late Wednesday night indicated a decision could come in the next 24 to 48 hours and it would be "an upset" if the seven schools chose to remain in the league.

DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall and Villanova have essentially three options.

They can remain in the Big East despite the likelihood that a new TV deal will not meet their expectations and the chance that new additions like Tulane, Houston and SMU drag down the league's basketball standing. They can leave the league and forfeit millions of dollars in NCAA tournament win shares and exit fees paid by previous departees. Or they can dissolve the league altogether if they have the two-thirds majority necessary to make such a decision.

According to the ESPN.com report, dissolving the league is a real possibility because new member Temple is not allowed to vote on the dissolution of the conference until after July 1. As a result, the seven would have the two-thirds majority they need even if existing Big East members Cincinnati, UConn and South Florida voted against them.

link

[Blake]

Published reports have said Maryland stands to make $100 million more in its first five years in the Big Ten than it would have made in a new TV agreement between the ACC and ESPN.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1445262

lol chip brown

It's all speculation. Published reports also say that the networks might play hardball when the current B10 deal expires since nobody in New York really gives a about Rutgers it Maryland.

I do agree with the sentiments that the Big12 needs to get off their asses and add Florida St and Georgia Tech before some other conference does

[NFO]

lol chip brown

The link is to Chip, but the published report come from Pete Thamel of SI, who references that the projected revenue information was presented to the school by Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany.

Nice try though.

It's all speculation.

Yeah, I am sure Maryland thinks the information from the commissioner recruiting them to join is purely speculation with no data to back anything up.

I do agree with the sentiments that the Big12 needs to get off their asses and add Florida St and Georgia Tech before some other conference does

Agree there.

[FkLA]

Damn so what happens to SMU, Houston, ECU and UCF...do they come back to CUSA? If so do any of the new members get kicked to the curve ?

[Blake]

The link is to Chip, but the published report come from Pete Thamel of SI, who references that the projected revenue information was presented to the school by Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany.

Nice try though.

Still lol chip brown.

Speculation. projection. whatever.

I think the main networks will pay what the BIG10 asks, but we'll see about the Big10 network expanding into NY. The LHN and Pac networks have been underwhelming so far.

[coyotes_geek]

Damn so what happens to SMU, Houston, ECU and UCF...do they come back to CUSA? If so do any of the new members get kicked to the curve ?

Looks like the Catholic schools are just going to leave the conference instead of trying to disband it. So if that's what they do, there's still a Big East conference for those schools to play football in. That conference is just going to lose a huge chunk of the revenue they were earning from basketball.

[NFO]

we'll see about the Big10 network expanding into NY.

No doubt it will be there, just a matter of if the B1G can get it on exapnded cable or having to settle for a particular tier and make less money.

The LHN and Pac networks have been underwhelming so far.

Well the LHN is pretty specific so I can see why that one is extremely underwhelming. Haven't seen the PAC 12 network so I don't really have any thoughts on that specifically, but the West Coast sports fan is a diffeent breed than other types of fan bases around the country, and not as rabid as well, so if the network doesn't have the viewers the producation quality probably is not the best.
I am sure the B1G will try to maximize the $$ as best possible.

[coyotes_geek]

FWIW...

Swarbrick was the second source in two days to say that the ACC will eventually be making more money per school than the Big 12. That would seemingly put to rest speculation that Florida State is trying to get out. Both of those conferences are behind the Big Ten, largely considered to be No. 1 in conference revenue at the moment.

One source said the ACC is in the process of monetizing its soon-to-be lucrative digital network located in Charlotte, N.C. Industry sources are split on whether the ACC can do a full-on network similar to the Big Ten that would be able to throw off profit in a relatively short period of time.

“The point is, the ACC is not hurting,” the source said. “They [FSU] would have to take a pay cut if they went somewhere else.”

[Blake]

From Dodd:

”..... One industry source estimated Big 12 schools will be cashing checks for $30 million-plus in the first year of the playoff beginning in 2014. The total now stands at approximately $20 million per school. Beginning in 2014, the Big 12 will begin taking in $40 million per year from the alignment with the Sugar Bowl (previously Champions Bowl).

There's your opportunity -- as Bowlsby put it -- that moves the needle. Expansion in the form of a bowl game split between the Big 12 and SEC.

A conference championship game doesn't make much financial sense. One media consultant says such a game would be worth only $700,000-$1 million a year per school. Not an insignificant amount, but worth having to split with two more mouths to feed?

Think of it in Powerball terms. It's easier to make more money if you and nine friends combined to buy tickets for Wednesday's drawing instead of 12.

“I would be laughing,” said a source who has worked closely with the Big 12. “They're in great shape. If the TV deal was lousy, if in two or three years their network deal was coming up [then I could see it]. But right now, the Big 12 has hit the lottery. They've got it perfect. Those guys have it on Easy Street.”

Further reasons the Big 12 is in good shape:

......”

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...of-realignment

[Blake]

I think the Big 12 is trying to hold out as long as possible before inviting Florida St, etc. They know the Big 10 doesn't want them and apparently they add no extra bargaining power for the SEC since they already have Florida.

I think there will be a day where they will be forced to get back to at least 12 or be left out, but that day seems a lot farther away than I originally thought.

And Notre Dame being in the national championship today only strengthens their ability to stay independent for at least 10 maybe 20+ plus years from now.........which indirectly also helps allow the Big 12 to stay put.

[coyotes_geek]

I'd say it's more a case of the Big12 waiting for FSU to ask for an invite than it is FSU waiting for the Big12 to invite them, but that's just semantics. Either way, I agree things have settled down for the time being. The Big12, Big10 and SEC are only going to be interested in ACC schools as expansion targets and the Pac is only going to be interested in Big12 schools. So long as the ACC schools remain committed to the conference things should stay relatively calm until the Big12 GOR comes up and Texas re-assesses their individual situation.

[NFO]

And Notre Dame being in the national championship today only strengthens their ability to stay independent for at least 10 maybe 20+ plus years from now.........which indirectly also helps allow the Big 12 to stay put.

I think the Big 12 would make a move before Notre Dame ever would.

I would like to see the Big 12 get back to 12 eventually and have a championship game since the other conferences will be having one. I don't really like the CCG, but if each conference has one it is at least a little bit more fair. But fair and the NCAA don't really belong in the same sentence.

[Blake]

Notre Dame is definitely in the better spot to do nothing than the big 12, but the big 12 apparently has more leverage to do nothing than I thought.

As a fan, I'd love to add Florida State, but it looks like that won't happen for a very long time....if ever.

...and at the same time, I'm glad they aren't desperate to add schools like SMU or Houston......or Rutgers..

[ChumpDumper]

True, the Big XII-IV+II has got a really good network deal without even having to start a conference network. Championship games are just an asspain for teams when you get right down to it.

I'm feeling a nice amount of schadenfreude for the teams that jumped to the Big East. Football AQ is gone and most of the schools are going to be screwed with travel costs and conference matchups no one could possibly care about.

[spurs1990]

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-f...llege-football

Insider article on ESPN states that Houston is #2 on free agents, per UH Scout message board. The quote is as follows:

"When they win, the city really gets behind them," said an SEC administrator, directly referencing Houston's Southwest Conference membership from 1971 through its disbanding in '95. "They've always been caught in between the Texas and Texas A&M crowds, but if they were ever to get back to a top-level conference, where they really have a shot at competing for big championships, the potential there is through the roof."

Obviously SEC is wishful thinking but I would like to see PAC make a footprint in Texas.

[Blake]

Houston being #2 on some type of college free agent list is wishful thinking

[FkLA]

Boise St staying in MWC is official tbh.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...conference-all

[spurs1990]

Assuming the ACC is the conference to get the boot, maybe Boise can position itself to get a Pac 10 invite to get them to 16. Boise and BYU would be the best 2 names.

Then Big 10 picks up UVa and Duke. SEC gets UNC and VaTech.

Big 12 gets 6 teams - most likely FSU, Ga Tech, Clemson, NC State, Miami, Lousiville, and maybe Notre Dame.

There you have 4 conferences, 64 teams.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Assuming the ACC is the conference to get the boot, maybe Boise can position itself to get a Pac 10 invite to get them to 16. Boise and BYU would be the best 2 names.

Then Big 10 picks up UVa and Duke. SEC gets UNC and VaTech.

Big 12 gets 6 teams - most likely FSU, Ga Tech, Clemson, NC State, Miami, Lousiville, and maybe Notre Dame.

There you have 4 conferences, 64 teams.

I think the PAC 10 by laws prevent a religious school from joining, plus Boise States academics would never pass muster with the PAC 10 schools presidents.

[Pelicans78]

True, the Big XII-IV+II has got a really good network deal without even having to start a conference network. Championship games are just an asspain for teams when you get right down to it.

I'm feeling a nice amount of schadenfreude for the teams that jumped to the Big East. Football AQ is gone and most of the schools are going to be screwed with travel costs and conference matchups no one could possibly care about.

Not really. Most of the teams left are in the same region outside of San Diego State.