Pop is a great coach but to think he ever started Blair or Bonner, except for injuries or to give an occassional rest, over Splitter has to knock him down any list of great coaches.
What team are you talking about? Combine Duncan with Manu and Parker and you have a very talented team. We have also had some great role players in those championship years. You pretend like Pop worked with nothing and it is just ridiculous. Also what is wrong with having foreign players? Parker and Manu should not be able to play because they are not born in the USA?
I have no ing idea what you're talking about. I never said anything remotely related to ability of foreign players. There is no overwhelming talent in SA. That's why we have 6 or 7 people in double digits, why someone like Neal can look like a beast. Pop can coach the bench to almost beating Miami, Mike D and Mike Brown couldn't coach 4 All Stars into beating the 6ers. "Very talented team" is not overwhelming talent, and by "talent" I do not mean their ability to play together effectively. I mean their individual talents. It's the Spurs system that allows them to prosper, as made evident by their post season results when they meet just two or three really athletic, talented players with a half decent system.What team are you talking about? Combine Duncan with Manu and Parker and you have a very talented team. We have also had some great role players in those championship years. You pretend like Pop worked with nothing and it is just ridiculous. Also what is wrong with having foreign players? Parker and Manu should not be able to play because they are not born in the USA?
Just watch other coaches plays out of timeouts. They almost never have anything remarkable, if anything at all. Watch when they call their timeouts, normally after a 10pt run by the opponent. They rarely call timeouts to fix something they observe, it's almost always momentum timeouts. Pop has called timeouts in the first few seconds of a game, if he sees something he doesn't like. That's coaching, not just reacting to the scoreboard. There are only a handful of real NBA coaches still coaching, and Pop is the best in the league.
Pop is a good to great coach agreed.
Pop is responsible for the results ---good and bad.
Pop has done great things.
Pop has also favored the likes of zombie Finley over Bowen. Bonner over - everybody. Bogans as the "centerpiece." Numerous sweeps and/or backdoor sweeps by a playoff opponent, etc...
When you hear talk of the greatest coach in history, the best coach in basketball, etc...
I think it is safe to say that he is a bit overrated. Just look at his whole record and his personnel moves and his playoff failures and it doesn't take a genius to admit -that while he is still a good coach - his ups have knocked him down a couple of notches.
Unless you are a true Popsucker.
I think you can really wonder if he's not an underachiever tbh.
Also it pretty dumb to talk about the Miami game like it proves anything when we then almost lost to the harden less rockets... Just shows that sometimes teams play down to the compe ion...
Only a Popsucker would use a LOSS (Miami game) as some kind of a testament to the greatness of Pop.
Maybe that is why Pop gets all this praise after being eliminated 5 years in a row with 3 HALL OF FAMERS on the team!!!!!
Greatest coach indeed!
you are wanting it both ways and saying you can't have it both ways in a three sentence span.
Bravo.
you are wanting it both ways and saying you can't have it both ways in a three sentence span.
Bravo.
Did the Spurs win a le last season?
Did Bonner prove the obvious to you again?
Was I right?
Is the Tiago/Timmy tandem working?
Just STFU because I was correct in everything I said for two years now.
That failure was really easy to find. if you use the search function, you'll be able to find them easy enough too. Either way let me know if you need more.
Definitely.
Are you that stupid?
Everything in that post was what undid the spurs hope last season and I was 100% correct in calling out Pop and Popsuckers for it.
Spurs failed in the playoffs because of Pop's stupidity and I called it and now you confirm it by posting it and you can't see it?
Wake up. Please.
Always believed in Tiago.
Funny what happens if people used their common sense
lol at you trying to spin your obvious failure into a success.
I predict more spinning as well as a meltdown storm coming this way later on in this thread.
Funnier still that you think you have common sense.Funny what happens if people used their common sense
Funny what happens if people used their common sense
I don't think anyone can explain it to Blake in a way that he could understand though. Special people are "special" I guess.
Anytime you want to show where I was wrong - go right ahead.
Spurs didn't win le - CHECK
Pop favored Bonner over Tiago - CHECK
Pop got out-coached again - CHECK
Spurs eliminated 5 years in a row - CHECK
Popsuckers still unconvinced - BIG CHECK
Too easy - CHECK
Yet people don't realize that the decision to not start Splitter was also linked to Duncan and the fact we have no back up at center. Why is is different this year ? Probably because Tim is playin' an amazing level of basketball, rejuvenated he is running the floor like he is 30 y/o again and hitting long 2s at a high rate. With this kind of Duncan, spacing is less of an issue for the Spurs. Also Tiago seems to have get rid of all his small injuries that bothered him during a long time so he can play more and split his time between the first and second unit. Finally we have added Jax who can play some pf.
Now am I saying that Pop was not wrong with Tiago, Ian or the centerpiece or RJ or Bonner... ? no. I'm just saying stuff is not black or white. I do believe Pop could have been more active, patient trying to develop young bigs (Tiago, Ian) but also cir stances have dictated his line ups and he is always trying to find a good balance between his first and second unit.
That's just it though. Splitter's a player who needs extended minutes in order to learn from his mistakes and build up his confidence. He needs confidence in order to play. This is why people like me were saying that Pop needed to play him more in the regular season. That didn't happen so it was inevitable that Tiago would choke at some point. By April it was too late to integrate him and it was just a matter of time before something- free throws, bad match-ups, poor shooting- affected his confidence and brought down his overall play.
Outside of the last 4 games of the WCF, he played well last year. I was actually surprised that he made it that far without breaking down and I thought that Pop did the right thing by pulling him when he did. What else was there to do at that point?
This year Pop has given him minutes and allowed him to play more with Duncan. This year Pop has come back to Spurs basketball and is letting his best players (ie. Not Bonner and Blair) play while still holding his team accountable. In other words, the Pop we all wanted is back.
If Splitter gets enough reps in I really think that he can provide TD with help upfront when it matters. Diaw will show up and with Jax playing some back-up 4, the Spurs' big rotation shouldn't be a liability in the playoffs this season. I'm not really a "nothing less than a championship" kinda gal. All I want to see is that the Spurs are maximizing their chances with the players they've got. Unlike last year, I think that the team is doing that. So although I might still want to see Gortat in the silver and black or a decent back-up pg, I have been a pretty happy fan this year.
people should stop talking about spacing issues when he played dewhataburger next to duncan this whole time
I think this is the first time I've seen someone make the case for starting Tiago by implying he is mentally weak.
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