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One of the all-time greats, hope the Colts can spoil the party
Breaking on ESPN. I'm pretty surprised tbh.
One of the all-time greats, hope the Colts can spoil the party
DPG gonna miss those pregame speeches
Best defensive player ever IMO.
If Houston can't do it, I'm rooting for B-More.
You knew it was coming. That's why he's been trying so hard to get back this season. It's great to see him play one last home game.
Undeniably a great player .... now maybe he can fully own up to the accessory to murder charges that he skated on.
He didn't do it, asshole.
Well thats a terrible opinion lol
I don't think it's 'that' ridiculous an assertion to call Ray the best. I think he was definitely the best MLB of all-time, and that's saying something. In my lifetime though (and even before my time), no one was scarier than LT imo
I'd say he's one of the best and THE most durable defensive player ever.
+1...most durable defensive player ever despite playing the most violent position on the football field for 17 years.
No homer but wouldn't London be the most durable? Same position, less games missed.
Their stats are actually pretty similar. London slightly leads in game played, tackles, and the FF are very close. Ray has a lead in INT. obviously one is a first ballot while the other prob doesn't get in the HOF. Ray does get credit for having a great defense almost every season and being the leader of it.
Actually sorry, I was looking at stats since 199 so I'm not sure what the all time totals are (the first real year London got a lot of play..his second year)
London has never missed a game in his career
1999
I agree that ray is the GOAT MLB but he has had the privilege to play with great teammates as well imo
London Fletcher
Games-238
Tackles-1662
Sacks-35
Pass Defended-71
INT-22
Safeties- 2
Forced Fumbles- 18
Ray Lewis
Games-228
Tackles-1336
Sacks-41.5
Pass Defended- 67
INT- 31
Safeties- 1
Forced Fumbles- 17
300 more tackles in 10 more games.
Vinny Testaverde has better stats than a ton of HOF QBs
damn the GOAT is finally calling it quits huh?
he'll be a of a position coach one day.
thanks for the memories, ray.
Fletcher can keep the stats, Lewis can keep the rings
Lewis=class
when we play as 52 we can beat any 1
52+20=4 rings
who says defense is boring?
etc
LT gets my vote. Ray-Ray was a great player but LT changed the game.
he wasnt even the best defensive player on his own team. I know he gives great pregame speeches and watches Gladiator every week to pump himself up, etc, but theres no player more overrated than the MLB who gets a load of tackles. Excellent player but i'll take alot of defensive greats over him.
I'll take LT, Reggie White, Deion, and Ed Reed over Ray Lewis. Probably more than that but i'm not gonna waste time on the ridiculous notion that this guy is the defensive GOAT.
LT is the best linebacker of all time, imo it's not much of a close call either.
Couple things...gonna ramble. MLB wasn't the obsolete (for lack of a better word) position it's become the past couple years in the new pass-happy NFL. He's been the anchor of a D that's been consistently one of the best in the league, year-in, year-out--even though coaches and players have changed around him--he's been the one constant through it all. He's helped drag the likes of Trent Dilfer, Anthony Wright/Kyle Boller, Elvis Grbac, the AARP-version of McNair, and the ever-imploding Joe Flacco to the playoffs. In 2000 his D kept the team afloat through a Tony Banks-led 5 game TD drought. LT (who I already said was the defensive GOAT) and Reggie I agree with. I'm not gonna argue too much on Ed Reed because imo he's the best safety to ever play--and outside of Jim Kelly and Darryl Talley--is my fav player. He doesn't have a ring though, and surprisingly has still never been to a SB. Deion? No. Look at all the other consistent contenders/good teams during his tenure: Colts, Patriots, Steelers, Packers, etc. They all have had elite/great QBs at the helm for most of their contending years. Even the ans and Eagles had McNair and McNabb who statistically were great then.
Deion is the greatest corner of all time and a guy who changed the way entire offenses would play. The "he shut down half the field" cliche about him is a big exaggeration, but he still was a guy who freed up the rest of the defense to make play by singlehandedly shutting down the offense's best target. Add his defensive playmaking ability, where the slightest mistake was going the other way for six, and i don't see how that isn't more valuable than a great MLB. Offenses didn't rewrite their entire gameplan when Ray Lewis came to town, they absolutely did for Deion. Granted, Deion's prime was significantly shorter than the primes of any of the aforementioned all time greats, but in his prime no CB in history comes even close.
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