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    And Spurs would offer them .... ?

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    And Spurs would offer them .... ?
    250k$

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    Can he hip hop, rap or moonwalk or something? We gotta be thorough here.

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    if the spurs have the chance to land a good big, there will be problems that come with it. no one is going to serve up a pau gasol on a silver platter for the spurs. they need to take risks and if cousins wasn't completely dysfunctional, he wouldn't even be available on the market. there isn't going to be a big who can score, rebound, defend, and mentally mature who is going to be gifted to the spurs. there's always going to be something wrong with a player if he's available. unless the spurs want to spend the next 3-5 years in the lottery after duncan retires, they should seriously look at these kind of deals.
    Problem is people don't even want to give up a Splitter or a Green to get anyone... Spurs signing a head case happened in the past, Spurs signing someone who forced an exit with his team happened in the past, the altercation with Sean is a deal breaker tho, so as well as the fact that we don't have the young assets needed obviously.

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    Cousins is a star. There is no doubt about it. If he ever makes the decision to be a good temmate he will be a damn talented guy. Since the suspension, he's played pretty damn well and watching him play closely he is all around talented offensively. Passing, scoring, handling the ball. No way Kings give up on him unless it's a stellar package or he completely flies off the handle.

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    Cousins is a star. There is no doubt about it. If he ever makes the decision to be a good temmate he will be a damn talented guy. Since the suspension, he's played pretty damn well and watching him play closely he is all around talented offensively. Passing, scoring, handling the ball. No way Kings give up on him unless it's a stellar package or he completely flies off the handle.
    He can only bite them so many times before they completely lose trust in him. We'll see if they're at the point now.

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    There are so many guys in the NBA that make Cousins look like a Saint that have stuck around for a long time. He would really have to regress or act the damn fool for a long while before they dump him.

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    Problem is people don't even want to give up a Splitter or a Green to get anyone... Spurs signing a head case happened in the past, Spurs signing someone who forced an exit with his team happened in the past, the altercation with Sean is a deal breaker tho, so as well as the fact that we don't have the young assets needed obviously.
    The whole problem with the DeMarcus comparisons to Jack, etc. is that it's MUCH easier to control a role player than someone you may want to build the team around. Jack was brought around the first time here because he was on a two year non-guaranteed contract and could have been cut at a moment's notice, the same tool they actually USED on Devin Brown and Danny Green's first go around with the Spurs. Devin actually missed out on a ring in 2002-2003 by being cut for not being professional. He did come back and ring on the 2005 team.

    There is a mistaken idea that the NBA is a players league. It's not. It's a STARS league. Pop can't re-hab a corrupted star, only players without the power of a huge guaranteed deal behind them.

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    at this point i wouldnt be upset with any combo of Gino neal green splitter bonner combo. its time to make tough decisions.

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    at this point i wouldnt be upset with any combo of Gino neal green splitter bonner combo. its time to make tough decisions.
    No team in the NBA wants a combo of Neal/Bonner/Green for any of their elite players, no team! and the Spurs will not trade Gino, he will retire as a spur. I love how when there is a good player on another team that is possible trade bait, calls of blair green bonner neal come rolling from the keyboards of some people here. These gm's are not stupid.

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    If the Spurs can get him without giving Duncan, Parker, Manu, Splitter or Kawhi, Cousins is worth the risk. He's already a borderline all-star talent.

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    The whole problem with the DeMarcus comparisons to Jack, etc. is that it's MUCH easier to control a role player than someone you may want to build the team around. Jack was brought around the first time here because he was on a two year non-guaranteed contract and could have been cut at a moment's notice, the same tool they actually USED on Devin Brown and Danny Green's first go around with the Spurs. Devin actually missed out on a ring in 2002-2003 by being cut for not being professional. He did come back and ring on the 2005 team.

    There is a mistaken idea that the NBA is a players league. It's not. It's a STARS league. Pop can't re-hab a corrupted star, only players without the power of a huge guaranteed deal behind them.
    Great point. How can you get the guy to act right when you have no leverage? He could easily say " you guys, I'm not gonna try anymore so you better trade or dump me so I can play somewhere that they'll tolerate my bull ".

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    No team in the NBA wants a combo of Neal/Bonner/Green for any of their elite players, no team! and the Spurs will not trade Gino, he will retire as a spur. I love how when there is a good player on another team that is possible trade bait, calls of blair green bonner neal come rolling from the keyboards of some people here. These gm's are not stupid.
    not sure why you feel the need to try and "flaunt knowledge" without addressing the fact that i said ANY combo of those players in a hypothetical including Splitter (which u dont mention), and Gino, the least effective of the Big 3, and saying that he is untradeable is ludicrous considering you dont work in the front office and have no clue what theyre thinking and that we traded Bruce Bowen at one point.

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    No team in the NBA wants a combo of Neal/Bonner/Green for any of their elite players, no team! and the Spurs will not trade Gino, he will retire as a spur. I love how when there is a good player on another team that is possible trade bait, calls of blair green bonner neal come rolling from the keyboards of some people here. These gm's are not stupid.
    and furthermore, Cousins will likely be traded for below market value considering his mental issues and charcter concerns. maybe, JUST maybe thats why the front office called and felt the need to make an offer.
    so yes. there is a possibility that the Kings could take a package of the players previously mentioned. AT LEAST enough of a possibility for the Pop to reach out and make a serious offer.

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    and furthermore, Cousins will likely be traded for below market value considering his mental issues and charcter concerns. maybe, JUST maybe thats why the front office called and felt the need to make an offer.
    so yes. there is a possibility that the Kings could take a package of the players previously mentioned. AT LEAST enough of a possibility for the Pop to reach out and make a serious offer.
    Your right that if Cousin's is traded it will be for below market value given the situation he has put the Kings in and the league's knowledge of his character deficiencies. Your wrong if you think that the Spurs could/would offer anything significant for him, or that the Kings would take the players you've listed for Cousin's. Given Pop and the FO didn't reach out to Blatche this past off-season, I'm not sure why they would suddenly decide that trading away players and taking back expensive long-term contracts (or else why would the Kings be trading for the Spurs scraps) is a good idea for someone like Cousins, when offering a short-term non-guaranteed contract to a similar type of player in Blatche wasn't a good idea.

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    Mental issues should be included in a market value no? Tell me a basketball player who can succeed without a brain? Below talent value is where his market value rightfully should be no? I don't like him and I don't want him to be a Spur.

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    Cousins is a star. There is no doubt about it. If he ever makes the decision to be a good temmate he will be a damn talented guy.
    I'd agree with:

    Cousins is a damn talented guy. There is no doubt about it. If he ever makes the decision to be a good teammate he will be a star.

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    I'd agree with:

    Cousins is a damn talented guy. There is no doubt about it. If he ever makes the decision to be a good teammate he will be a star.
    Yep. I don't think you can be a star without making your teammates better, Kobe jokes notwithstanding.

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    I'd agree with:

    Cousins is a damn talented guy. There is no doubt about it. If he ever makes the decision to be a good teammate he will be a star.
    I'm not convinced he has the restraint or per acity to become a good team-mate while his talent is at its peak. He seems much more in the mold of a Kwame than the Robert Horry we need to get us to the next level.

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    Cousins is clearly not ready to listen to anyone, has a mental age of about 15.

    Until he grows up and starts to listen to people who know better than him, I wouldn't trade for him. Mega-cancer.

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    He's likely to spend his entire career putting up impressive numbers on under-achieving teams, and getting paid near-max money to do so.

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    Sounds like Drew Gooden.

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    He's likely to spend his entire career putting up impressive numbers on under-achieving teams, and getting paid near-max money to do so.
    ...with Spurs fans swooning at the very thought of his underachieving ass the whole time.

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    ...with Spurs fans swooning at the very thought of his underachieving ass the whole time.
    He Ex! Nice to see you've returned to ST!

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    ...with Spurs fans swooning at the very thought of his underachieving ass the whole time.
    There was a time the Spurs were so thin on the front line that Pops Mensah Bonsu made an impact. It'd be nice to think about what a guy like Cousins could do for the Spurs if he could get his head on straight. There's no doubt he's got immense talent.

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