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How fortunate I am to have been born inside the Spurs media market, so that I've been able to follow this team since I was a tike, and get to watch one all time great (Robinson) after another (Duncan). I weep tears of joy every time I think of it.
Duncan Ties Shaq By Playing In 819th Victory
From Elias: Tim Duncan had 16 points, eight rebounds and four blocked shots as the Spurs took command early and lengthened their lead throughout a 109-86 victory over the visiting 76ers. It was the 819th time that Duncan has played in an NBA victory, tying Shaquille O'Neal's career total of wins played in, which is the ninth-highest in league history. But while Shaq played in 388 losses, Duncan has played in only 327 losses, giving Duncan the highest personal winning percentage (.715) among the 105 players in NBA history who have played in at least 1,000 games.
How fortunate I am to have been born inside the Spurs media market, so that I've been able to follow this team since I was a tike, and get to watch one all time great (Robinson) after another (Duncan). I weep tears of joy every time I think of it.
The spurs front office gets too much credit for the teams success. The turn around of the franchise lies directly on Duncan, no lottery luck, no les in San Antonio. Duncan carries the franchise year after year.
Tell us again about how the Lakers have the best front office in basketball.
No doubt about it. The lakers have the best front office. They put together teams that beat up on the spurs in the playoffs more often then not, even when they had both Robinson and Duncan.
Tell us again about how the Lakers have the best front office in basketball.
If they had gotten Duncan they would have won at least 6 les. The lakers can add stars in their prime, the Spurs can't. When Duncan is gone it will take another franchise lottery lucky draft pick for the Spurs to get anywhere near a le again.
Too many injuries this year for the Lakers , they made the bold moves to get talent, adding one of the top bigs in the league.
They had Kobe and Shaq and you have to imagine them with Duncan, too.
They have Hollywood and a 100 million dollar payroll (plus 30 million in luxury tax) and they may wind up in the lottery. To top it off, they didn't even protect the pick in the Nash trade. If they finish in the lottery, the Suns get the pick.
They're looking at 2 les in 11 years with all their advantages in market and payroll. If they had the best front office in basketball they would have won much more.
That's not true -- when the Spurs had both Robinson and Duncan, the Lakers and Spurs split four playoff series, each team sweeping the other once and each team winning another in fairly strong fashion.
The Lakers can add stars in their prime because they are in Los Angeles and have a pedigree forged during a time when there were only 3-4 teams in any given season who could realistically win a le and one of those teams was always the Lakers. Going over the tax threshold to get a star, or selling a market to convince a star to join you, is a substantially easier thing to do in Los Angeles than it is in San Antonio. Tim Duncan has undoubtedly been the driving force in keeping the Spurs at the top of the league for most of the past two decades, but he hasn't done it completely by himself. And there aren't many players with arguable Hall of Fame credentials who are chosen as late in drafts as Parker and Ginobili were.
To discount the draft gems that Parker and Ginobili are and to ignore the substantial retooling that a franchise of limited means and stuck in a limited market has accomplished while remaining compe ive throughout is pretty silly to me.
Have the Spurs been perfect? No.
Are there legitimate criticisms of Popovich and his crew in the way that they've built their rosters? Perhaps.
But I think there's plenty of reason to think that if you gave Popovich and Buford the advantages that the Lakers enjoy, they'd achieve similar successes -- for crissakes, they've done it without those advantages.
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I often wonder if Duncan would've found his way to the Spurs if he hadn't been drafted by them. Seems unlikely but...
Currently Duncan has the fifth highest PER in the NBA. Not minutes adjusted. Real PER. Fifth place, at age 36, after all these years, he already spent in the league.
That's a great accomplishment. It is evidence that Tim is the best player post-Jordan.
Pray tell what's the difference between PER and "minutes adjusted" PER?
PER is just efficiency so I don't think it is affected by minutes.
So classy
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