Yesterdays prediction of the Blairinator dunking over Dwight is clearly not going to become reality. I know a lot of you gunna be disappointed now.
Lakers will be facing the Rockets and then the Spurs. With the Lakers coming from a back-to-back, no reason for the big 3 not to play. Spurs does not even have a game the next day. Here's hoping the Spurs blow them out early and let the bench play for extended minutes.
i wonder if all the tshirts will show up tomorrow night......
Well I guess St. Louis Lakers does make more sense.
Depends on the kind of tear, the grade of the tear, etc.
Most common are SLAP tears, but you'll see those overhead throwing motions like those of baseball pitchers. He could conceivably come back soon. If its a higher grade lesion, then they made need to scope him.
Prices on the resale market have dropped about 50% for upper level tickets since the news came out.
http://www.ticketsnow.com/NBA/Invent...13?PID=1309215
http://www.stubhub.com/san-antonio-s...-2013-4119332/
I'm afraid the turd towers will get more minutes
The issue isn't on whether he can come back, it's if he can stay healthy with a structurally damaged shoulder. Players like Batum or Bradley were fine and played with that injury before not being able to take it anymore. For example, Howard shoulder must hold up when he will set up a screen and a player will run into him.
Hi, with a torn labrum it isn't so much about setting a screen, etc. Most people with torn labrums have no issues keeping there arms at there sides.
Its more about the movement's can or cannot make he can make with his arm as well as potential instability.
Issue is if he can continue to function? He may have shoulder instability, he may be unable to raise his arms (block a shot, grab a rebound, play defense).
You don't get what I said.
The issue isn't with the position of the shoulder, it's about being hit in the shoulder. When Howard will set screens, players will sometimes run into his shoulder. With the torn labrum, his shoulder is weaker and will suffer from these hits. The same thing will be true when he will bang in the paint or when his arm will be caught by an opponent while fighting for a rebound.
Even if his shoulder get back his full mobility and Howard is painless, it doesn't mean that Howard will be fine. His shoulder will need to hold up to all the hits and twists he will get during games.
I was concerned about this game before these injuries, even more concerned after them and am especially concerned now that they lost again tonight. It doesn't matter how shorthanded/bad they are, those assholes are due to win a game, particularly against a good team.
Given that the Spurs are coming off an inexplicable loss, you'd think they wouldn't take them lightly. But even if they don't, I have a bad feeling that Pop is going to try to match the small lineups D'Antoni will play, instead of doing to them what they've done to the Spurs for years: Pounding them down low relentlessly. Not that Sacre is any good, but if they can get him in foul trouble, they'll literally have no one with the requisite size to guard Duncan and to a lesser extent, Splitter.
TD for a 30/10 game?
I suffered a torn labrum in my non-shooting shoulder two summers ago. Anytime I did any sort of "explosive" movement in which my arm was extended (going for a block/board/steal/errant pass) my shoulder would subluxate from the shoulder socket and the pain was almost unbearable until the muscles naturally pop it back into place. And then it was really sore and more susceptible to popping out again.
The first option is rehab to strengthen the muscles, hoping that they are enough to keep the proximal head of the humerus from popping out. That didn't work for me. I needed surgery to fix it, and after 6 months of physical therapy I feel back to 100% with no fear of it popping out in-game.
There's no way an NBA bigman can go through 2/3rds of the season with this injury. He'd have to be taking pain injections during timeouts.
Dwight's downplaying it, saying it's not "torn" but "separated." What's essentially the difference?
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...no-labrum-tear
Well the article even says he technically has a tear. The labrum is like connective tissue which helps keep the humerus in the shoulder socket. The shoulder is the most flexible joint in the body, and it is not a strict "ball and socket" joint as some plastic toys might lead you to believe. The labrum helps to complete the socket formed around the humeral head.
It sounds like a corner of the tissue has already torn from (or to use Dwight's word, is beginning to separate from) the bone in his shoulder. I don't see how it could get any better, unless he does absolutely nothing with his arm until the tissue fixes itself. Otherwise, it will continue to tear away from the bone, and when that happens, a secondary type of "pocket" forms in the shoulder which the head of the humerus will sit in just as well as it would sit in the true socket, other than the unbearable pain. I'm talking "the pickup game stops because everyone is staring at the guy yelling like a zombie is eating him" pain.
My surgery consisted of suturing the torn tissue back together (my labrum itself was torn, in addition to being torn from the bone) endoscopically, and my surgeon actually brought my humerus closer into my shoulder than it was naturally, to help reduce flexibility and increase the structural integrity. My rehab was then all about getting my ROM back for about 2-3 weeks, followed by strengthening. Before any of this, though, I had my arm immobilized in a sling for 2 weeks straight so that the tissue itself could heal.
Of course, being young and in good health aided in my fairly quick rehab, but the recovery from the surgery itself was greatly influenced by my type of injury. I had a specific type of Bankart lesion known as a Bony bankart tear, in which a piece of bone is separated from the rest of the bone, and remains attached to the torn/separated labrum. My surgeon says that bone heals to bone much more readily than the connective tissue would, so I'm interested to hear more about Dwight's "separation."
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Ouch. Wonder what the timetable on Dwight's return will be?
anyone else nervous for this game? i have a bad feeling and think like someone said above that lakers are due for a win, but when you look on paper theres seems no way they can beat the spurs with whom they have tonight!
lin was going nuts yesterday blowing by nash and no resistance at the rim, should be a picnic for TP. Manu may even throw down a couple... Not to mention duncan down low or splitter in the pnr...
The typical timetable is 6-12 months, with the lower end usually consisting of young athletes. I'd imagine (from a medical standpoint) that the best course of action would be to shut him down immediately and get the process started as soon as possible before it gets any worse. Of course, the Lakers may not be thinking strictly from a medical standpoint.
Honestly, I don't see how they don't just go straight to the surgery option. My doctor wanted me to try physical therapy first, but bigger stronger shoulders don't do anything for a torn labrum (much to Dwight's dismay I'm sure). Usually, because of the high success rate of the procedure, young people and athletes would just have it done and get it over with.
Traditionally, the no-surgery option is for older individuals who aren't gonna have their arm pop out whilst skying for a rejection at the rim. They only perform more gentle, controlled movements with their arms in their day-to-day lives; they only want to get by without discomfort. It was the quick/explosive movements in which my arm was extended that caused it to pop out from my own momentum (more times than I care to remember). Contact to the shoulder only caused it to pop out once; not from setting a pick or fighting through one, but from trying to take a charge.
Of course, I don't play in the NBA.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see Dwight in visible pain the next time he blocks a shot with the affected limb...if he doesn't get surgery first, of course.
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