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Suns should offer them Beasley + Frye + 2013 pick and wait for response. Memphis looks desperate
Absolutely correct.
gay in the final 2' is a death sentence.
Suns should offer them Beasley + Frye + 2013 pick and wait for response. Memphis looks desperate
Ken Berger @KBergCBS The Grizzlies-Warriors talks stalled with Golden State's desire to include HWMNBN ($21m left over two years) in the deal.
Grizz really want to get under the luxury tax, but they're not quite that desperate.
can't we use Gay for make a deal with a 3rd team ?
something like this : http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=al3sczn
Cleveland : Gay
Memphis : Kawai+Jackson (+picks from SA or Cleveland ?)
SA : Varejao+Casspi
another : http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bclp4aw
Atlanta : Gay+Splitter
Memphis : Jackson+L. Williams (+picks ?)
SA : J. Smith
something like this...
To me, Memphis should move Gay to Altanta for Morrow, Harris, & Korver, they save a ton with Harris's expiring contract and get 2 shooters and a backup PG.
What a terrible trade that GS move for RJ was. What were they thinking?
I don't believe Ferry cleared all that cap space for this summer just to use 18M on Rudy Gay
They were thinking that really didn't want to see Jack in a Warrior uniform again. That said, they would have been better off just buying out his contract. Thankfully, they didn't think of that.
Looks like he's going to Phoenix for Dudley and a no. 1 pick.
Not a good trade on the Grizzlie's part if it goes down - Gay may be a tad overrated, but he's their leading scorer.
They did get Festus Ezeli.
Raptors interested:
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...rudy-gay-chase
That article also mentions the Kings being interested, which is sort of surprising. I guess they're in win-now mode, too. I could see them sending a package of Garcia (replacement for Gay), Freddette (perimeter shooting) and Robinson (instead of a draft pick). That would be pretty good value while also not messing with what the Kings are doing too much. If Sacramento is over trying to move Cousins, then Robinson has very little future. Thompson has just been too good recently for anyone to expect him to be part of the deal.
The only issue would be if Memphis doesn't want any part of Robinson. The Grizzlies have five bigs signed through next year, and they have been rumored to be trying to move two of them as an alternate way to stay under the tax. Sacramento can't really trade a draft pick right now, as they still owe Cleveland one which is protected through 2017. So the Kings' next available pick may not be for six years. Robinson (or Evans or anyone player who makes more than $3 Million or so this season) would have to go to a third team in exchange for draft picks. Maybe the Spurs could help there...
That's just wishful thinking, of course.
Last edited by Chinook; 01-09-2013 at 04:55 AM.
Fun Fact:
Tom Haberstroh @tomhaberstroh
Rudy Gay and Tim Duncan have the same number of dunks this season (34). I just love that.
Source with a team interested in Rudy Gay: the Gay-for-Jared Dudley/Michael Beasley deal was leaked in order to
generate more offers from around the league. The response when other GMs heard about the offer was, "Hey, we can do better than that." The Grizzlies, if they are going to move Gay, want a young SF on a smaller contract and a draft pick. The Wizards, as has been reported, will not put Bradley Beal in the deal and can only offer players (Trevor Ariza, Emeka Okafor) who would save the Grizzlies from incurring the super luxury tax in two years, not a luxury-tax hit this summer. Same goes for the Warriors, who would have to include Richard Jefferson or Andris Biedrins, both of whom have player options for next season that they're expected to keep.
http://sulia.com/channel/san-antonio...source=twitter
i pray that Gay stays with the grizzlies.
i actually like Gay a lot, while i agree that he's been overrated when signing his contract, he is about the only player i can think of that could defend Lebron and Durant in a fair way, since he has basically the same type of athleticism+pace+strength kind of body. He is not a franchise player as his ball handling is not on par with the other two and neither is his shooting, but he is not so far off and surely he's closer to being them than anyone else in the league. I'm not sure what we could give them other than kawhi, but i would love to see him in a spurs uniform.
(needless to say, he will not come)
At least they got a 1st rounder, but still a bad deal overall. He's not even starting for them but he's making 11 million thru next season.
If Memphis is serious about dealing Gay to PHO, they need to hold their feet to the fire and demand the Laker pick. It's unprotected, and looks like it could well be in the lottery this summer.
That is odd Trade Gays contract for one of the worst contracts in the league 3 year 18 million and his P.E.R is 10.
The Spurs could send them Green, a pick and Jack to make the numbers work. However, after the RJ experiment I don't believe the Spurs would take on another huge contract like that.
Thing is Gay has a PER below the league average and is owned a lot more money.
If the Spurs sometimes make mistakes by giving up on young cheap bigs with potential who go on to play successfully with other, lesser, teams (Mahinmi, Gee), they don't often make mistakes with "name" players (Richard Jefferson) with high dollar contracts. I think bringing in RJ was an exception to that philosophy that proves the rule.
Whether we like it or not, they are committed to staying under the cap and this means filling the bench roster with young cheap players and letting them go when it looks like they can command more money than the Spurs can pay. I think it is highly unlikely that they would bring Gay in.
You're thinking they want Beasley? They don't. They want Dudley, who makes about 1/4 of what Gay does, and has a higher PER at 16.0. I think the fact that PHO is insisting on Beasley in the trade may be what's stopping it. Memphis is playing Moneyball now, and wants NO part of him.
Gee is not a big He's 6'5"
Spurs are not under the cap, and haven't been in YEARS. Their payroll is $69M, coming in at #12 out of 30 teams.
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