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    Rose is a much more marketable player on a national and global stage. Lebron got that huge as Nike deal playing in small market Cleveland. There's a slew of other examples.

    It's the player, not the market.
    Manu, Tim, and Tony would be gods in L.A., New York, or Chicago. Nevermind their quiet persona, they would be thrown lucrative endorserment deals their way.

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    Javale's Peak shoes, nice.


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    When Duncan switched from Nike to Adidas, he suffered a rash of ankle injuries. Hopefully that was just a coincidence. Hopefully Peak makes a good shoe, tbh.
    I wonder if the players/team are able to take out any kind of insurance policy when they sign a new endorsement. The only place a player (normally) makes actual contact with the floor is via their shoes. Almost every aspect of their game -- running, jumping, pivoting, even standing -- is based upon the presumption that their shoes don't fail, and will afford a neutral if not positive benefit toward their performance. You'd think they'd put a premium on the quality and performance of their footwear.

    Maybe it's a matter of "coming to the nuisance"?
    http://people.ucsc.edu/~wittman/nuisance.html

    Or maybe I'm just bitter that New Balance stopped making basketball shoes.

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    All these shoes are made in China anyway so I don't see what the big deal is
    Not that you want to hear a political rant, but these things DO matter. American companies pay taxes to the U.S. government on earned income, and that at least helps Americans. Also see Cisco vs. Huawei as a scenario of what happens when a Chinese company steals American designs, lowers their prices enough to gain market share, add one more innovation and then dominates the market.

    Then again, you're free to be a zombie and say you don't care about these sorts of things...seems like that fits 90% of Americans these days anyway.

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    Tony Parker doesn't care about America. He's French

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    Hopefully those bigass concrete boots don't slow him down tbh

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    Not that you want to hear a political rant, but these things DO matter. American companies pay taxes to the U.S. government on earned income, and that at least helps Americans. Also see Cisco vs. Huawei as a scenario of what happens when a Chinese company steals American designs, lowers their prices enough to gain market share, add one more innovation and then dominates the market.

    Then again, you're free to be a zombie and say you don't care about these sorts of things...seems like that fits 90% of Americans these days anyway.

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    Don't really care but couple random thoughts:

    1. When Duncan switched from Nike to Adidas, he suffered a rash of ankle injuries. Hopefully that was just a coincidence. Hopefully Peak makes a good shoe, tbh.

    2. This highlights the difference between small markets and big markets. Derrick Rose got $200 million in his shoe deal. Parker -- who isn't THAT worse of a player -- gets pennies in comparison. In a strictly business sense, staying in a small market is a bad idea for an NBA player. If you're great in a big market, your endorsements will pay more than your NBA contract. If you're great in a small market, your endorsement money might reach 20-30% of your NBA salary. Thank the basketball gods for players such as TD, TP and Manu who care about winning more than money.
    Star players, even in small markets, have earned enough money to live a decent life after their retirement, provided that their private life is not in a turmoil. TD, TP and Manu belong in that group, so they can pursuit higher goals, such as championships, team chemistry, job satisfaction etc, just "in the expense" of that excessive amount of money that they are unlikely to spend.

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    Not that you want to hear a political rant, but these things DO matter. American companies pay taxes to the U.S. government on earned income, and that at least helps Americans. Also see Cisco vs. Huawei as a scenario of what happens when a Chinese company steals American designs, lowers their prices enough to gain market share, add one more innovation and then dominates the market.

    Then again, you're free to be a zombie and say you don't care about these sorts of things...seems like that fits 90% of Americans these days anyway.
    I was talking about the quality wise not economics. Seems like people think a Chinese made shoe would be lower quality when that same pair of Nikes is being made in the sweat shop next door

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    Just imagine how much money Parker would be making in endorsements if he played for New York or LA....

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    Manu, Tim, and Tony would be gods in L.A., New York, or Chicago. Nevermind their quiet persona, they would be thrown lucrative endorserment deals their way.
    Based on what? Your imagination? They're not marketable players. Would they get more recognition? Sure. But they're not marketable.

    I see Pau signed that 100 million dollar endorsement deal when he got to LA. Oh right, aside from getting more national exposure, he hasn't signed any big money deals. Why? He's not marketable.

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    Just imagine how much money Parker would be making in endorsements if he played for New York or LA....
    Like Pau Gasol. /facepalm.png

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    Based on what? Your imagination? They're not marketable players. Would they get more recognition? Sure. But they're not marketable.

    I see Pau signed that 100 million dollar endorsement deal when he got to LA. Oh right, aside from getting more national exposure, he hasn't signed any big money deals. Why? He's not marketable.
    Well my stance is based on my opinion of a hypothetical, the same as yours. Yes, more marketable players will get better deals on the market (duh). But you become instantly more marketable in a bigger city. If Manu, Tim, and Tony won 3 to 4 championships in New York, public perception of the three would be radically different. Their shoes would be everywhere, they'd have more all-star nods, and maybe an extra MVP award.

    The reason the Spurs are deemed boring and uncool is not because of Tim, Tony, and Manu's persona. It's because that damn team from San Antonio keeps winning so many games and stealing championships from the bigger market teams of the NBA. Yes, it can be cute for awhile (Thunder), but after awhile people want to see the big markets meet each other in the Finals. This has always been the NBA. The NBA had never had three international stars all on the same small market team and thus failed to market the Spurs/players. Only now, the NBA is making strides at promoting international talent thanks to the influx of international players.

    I also understand that the more loud boisterous players will get more endorsement deals and Tim, Tony, and Manu are anything but that. However, it doesn't quite matter what type of persona you have if you are the main man in a big market. Pau Gasol is not a great example of this. We all know that there is 1 star in L.A. and that will go on for the next 3-5 years. Two stars can't co-exist for very long in Los Angeles.

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    not bad looking shoes:


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    I was talking about the quality wise not economics. Seems like people think a Chinese made shoe would be lower quality when that same pair of Nikes is being made in the sweat shop next door
    Who are those s in your sig? Damn those are some bad white girls.

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