Unlike most here, I wasn't TOO upset with Jack's ejecting. I mean after all, this IS Jack we're talking about here. Now Neal's shot selection, THAT I had a major problem with. I understand he can get hot at the drop of a hat but tonight he was forcing it waaay too damn much. He needs to tone it down a notch....
It was pretty much the worst possible situation to get ejected. And jawing at refs is a pretty weak way to go. Much rather see him getting ejected because of a confrontation with an opponent or something...
EDIT: Wow, Jax only has 10 ejections in his career. Lower than I expected.
Like I said, we all know how Jack can get a little too emotional at times. For the most part he's been very quiet since he's been back...
jack ruined the 1 good game have
now we just have to suffer through 10 bad ones for the next one to happen
What did Jackson do to get ejected? I had to leave for work before the game ended.
Hurling profanities at the referees I believe.
Oh i see. I'm not surprised
So, after 5 games with Neal as the backup PG, what do people think of that move? Should Pop stick with that choice or go with someone else?
Would be better playing some minutes at SG and when he is PG have Manu on as the ball handler. Then give NDC/PM some minutes at PG.
What's surprising concerning Neal is that there are 7 Spurs players iirc that are shooting better from deep this season. Even NDC is more reliable (with a third of the attempts). He needs to crack 40% by the end of the season, or just give all the PG/SG minutes to Tony, Manu, Green, NDC and Patty. Neal probably gets paid way too much to have Pop turn him into a garbage man after having a great last season, but he needs to be held accountable. A gunner that shoots more crooked than pretty much everyone else on the team AND plays mediocre D at best needs to go.
Actually, Neal's getting paid a very small amount for an NBA player, which is the ONLY reason why the Spurs are hesitant in trading him.
Tiago Splitter A-...He certainly is not afraid of anyone...Smacked MWP a couple times...
Gary Neal is just tearing my hair out.
It's a shame Nando hasn't worked out yet.
The only positive out of this game . Pop did state we got to take better shots going into 4th. What we saw in the 4th - hope to god thats not what he was meaning.
About ten minutes after the game last night I was speaking to my wife. The little ones call her granny. She ask me how it was and I said there were some questionable moves made, and like sometimes, it seemed as though we had never been under pressure before. When she ask me what I meant I explained futher "It started out well as usual, then it appeared as though we lost our concentration and things got a little soft and sloppy. Near the end we made some wrong moves and even went cold a bit, but true to form, the night had a happy ending", then I smirked and rolled over to sleep. Scolding me, she said "I've had it with your tasteless comments regarding our love life, just see how long it is before you get any more". Stunned, I replied "Love life, I was talking about the Spurs game". She said "It's too late for that old excuse. You know how those worn out farts play, a win is a win. Now get your whining butt up and go sleep on the couch, I don't want to hear your snoring tonight"! It wasn't a total loss as I did get to see the Mavs fall apart in the 4th quarter.
he is not afraid but his weak ass lay ups drive me nuts, he needs to finish with authority when he is near the rim
His ejection may be inexcusable but I kinda like it.
One thing about the Spurs, particularly in the playoffs, is their stoic predictability. They may be good, the other team thinks, but there's nothing they will do to show you up or surprise you or unnerve you. The worst they will do is win the game without much pain involved. It creates a subconscious comfort zone that allows the opposition to simply focus on basketball considerations, pure basketball (like the Spurs do). There's not that sense of risk to distract you, no seed of doubt (however unlikely) about what might come.
The Spurs championship teams have always had someone like Jack to create a flaw on that perfect round ball of Spurdom. Ellie, Jack himself, Horry, etc. I like it.
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He should go with someone else. Out of the remaining candidates, CoJo and NDC are the only viable options short of a trade (which I'm also not opposed to).
My thing is that I have serious problems with Neal's shot selection when he's running the point. It's one thing when he's being given shots and he goes 5/12 but when he's not shooting lights out and is *also* handling the ball it undermines the second unit's production. We'd see similar problems with Mills running the point which is why Pop has wisely made him a spot-up shooter rather than the guy who gets the sets going.
That won't get it done in the playoffs. Thanks as always Timvp.
I disagree pretty strongly with the grade for TP. Not only was his 10 of 16 shooting dismissed with "scored in bunches BUT", but his three steals pretty much belies the observation regarding "average or below on defense". His assist numbers were down from his average because Tim couldn't hit the side of a barn, and Tim is the where the ball goes at the beginning of our offensive set. Moreover, two of the turnovers assigned to Tony should have been on Tim because Tim just seemed too lackadaisical to haul the ball in. One more should have gone to Ginobili because Tony delivered the ball at the end of the game to the PRECISE spot on the court where every Spur player for 11 seasons is supposed to be in the offensive scheme, but Ginobili had taken himself out of there. But Tony gets the turnover.
The offense started looking so bad, imo, when Tony, after hitting some shots early on, starting passing out to others to take shots, and then they would just stand there. Way too often in the last couple of games, our shooters have gotten the ball and hesitated before shooting, allowing the defense to arrange themselves into a good defensive position. I think that is a result of playing some pretty bad defensive teams where we got in the habit of not being challenged too much on our shots. Now, when a team shuts down the lane (always a good ploy against us), TP has to give the ball to someone else and then that person has to pass or shoot quickly. None of that has been happening. It happened with Tim last night, it happened with Neal last night, big time, and I'm not sure that Green even touched the ball before the third or fourth quarter. Then when they did try to get Green involved, we ended up with three trips down the court with either turnovers or blown layups.
The issue of layups and blown fast breaks is approaching disaster, imo. Splitter keeps missing layups way too often, Green and Leonard miss fast break opportunity layups virtually all the time, and Neal can't seem to move fast enough to create a fast break.
The fast break issue can be dealt with in practice, I think, but the Neal issue has to be addressed with some certainty. Last year Ginobili was hurt so much we had to rely on Neal as a backup pg, but he is not one and never will be, and forcing him into that position negates his strength as a player and puts us in very bad situations as a team. Whenever he is the only pg on the floor for us our offense falls apart, and the other's team's offensive players get a break on defense and start getting into a rhythm that nullifies what the first team has done to keep them under control.
The grade given to Tony should have been given to Jackson, imo, because he really did 'score in bunches' but then negated all of his good by giving the other team 5 points out of a ten point lead in the final minutes of a game. That is too stupid to rate anything above a C minus overall.
God overall post. Something I noticed too is that the Lakers knew that Tim would be getting the ball at that spot and had very active hands throughout the game which made it difficult for the Spurs to get comfortable, especially Tim since they had those swipes on him early on.
Whats scary is that Tim always gets the spot down there and if every team starts having active hands when we are trying to set up our offense, every game is going to be just as ugly, moreso if teams wait to do this in the playoffs.
the whole team should have gotten F's. they should have mopped the floor with that lakers team.
Should be out of the rotation, give his minutes to Decolo/Mills or CoJo
kobe sets all time nba record for field goals missed
chucker bryant
best player since jordan
http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-kobe-sets-nba-record-for-most-career-misses/2013/01/10/
Raw +/- is not an advanced stat, that's why it is so dubious.
This team has no heart sometimes. It was up to the Spurs to humiliate the Lakers after Kobe said this about D'antoni: "He's probably one altercation in San Antonio away from getting to the Finals."
Instead, the Spurs gives them hope and Lakers scrubs have a field day with the team. Thankfully OKC is waiting to crush them the same way they crushed us two weeks ago.
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