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Quote Originally Posted by Russo21
What did Jackson do to get ejected? I had to leave for work before the game ended.
Did the play involve Kirby?
Good to know that I'm not the only one who didn't like what Neal is doing at PG. Neal at PG badly failed last year and I have seen no evidence that it would be different this year.
Neal is a quality player but it's a shame that he is such a bad fit with this team. He just is too good at SG to be a third stringer behind Green/Ginobili and he is too bad at PG to be Parker's backup.
Quote Originally Posted by Russo21
What did Jackson do to get ejected? I had to leave for work before the game ended.
Did the play involve Kirby?
The problem with De Colo and Mills is that both were given opportunities at the backup point when Neal was out and the bed.
Both are really only good at situational minutes, not the rotation.
I would like to see CoJo given another shot actually.
Just watched the game. Apart from getting the W, there was not much to like about the Spurs' performance. Probably the biggest exception was Leonard's defense against Kobe. But overall, I felt that the Spurs never really got into a good rhythm, and the Big 3 being erratic had much to do with that. Turnovers were a problem, and the final two and a half minutes of this game were pure travesty all around.
Kawhi's defense on Kobe in the last few possessions was magnificent. Stuck with him, force him to take awful shots.
Great game until the 4th... total meltdown. We're lucky the Lakers weren't hitting or we would have lost for sure.
Lakers weren't hitting? Kobe was hitting ridiculous non-stop during the 4th...
I don't see Neal as a serviceable point guard. Regardless of what he might of said over time, I don't think he has really bought into playing the point position. It is a nice way for him to stay active in the league, and when his contract is up, he will be able to add a little versatility to his resume. I think his next contract will be 4 fold over this current one and some one else will be paying him. I think Joseph should be the back up point because he can bring the ball up and pass it, thus taking these chores from Manu, and keeping Manu from expending so much energy getting the ball up the court. Actually, I liked when the Spurs had a Jacque Vaughn backing the point to kind of steady the ship. Miss that experience.
Am I the only one to notice that Parker and Duncan play almost exclusively together in the 1st quarter without involving the other 3?
It's been like that for two weeks.
This is seriously beginning to bother me!
I definitely wouldn't give Leonard an A. Kobe was going off as usual, just not like he would drop 81 on the Bucks or whatever. Very good, but not excellent. And I like the word Wonky.
This. Neal is an embarassment at PG. I can't understand why Pop doesn't see this and use one of his three/four if you count Manu backup PGs instead of Neal.
My overall at ude is that you are not trained as a PG, you are born like one. Neal is a decent-enough PG against awful teams that don't pressure the ball, because all he does if bring down the ball and hand it to someone, Manu preferably.
But it is very visible that he's not a born PG and won't become one. I think he's also not 100% physically.
A team that goes deep into the playoffs needs a better backup PG: Mills is not either and we all know De Colo, who far exceeded my expectations as an NBA player so far, won't play in POs, if Pop's record is teaching us something.
I think it is time to realize that Spurs have a problem here that could potentially wreck the whole season.
Yea if Neal on PG not gonna change, the spurs are screwed. There are teams that can hurt spurs badly feeding of Gary mistakes.
Manu is not as dominant as he was at the PG but we need to rely on him in the playoffs. So why not just put De Colo in the frickin rotation and let him play?
We all complain about NDC becoming a spot up SG when he plays with Manu, was that not the case with Neal last night? Maybe I'm getting confused, and there were 5-10 minutes where Neal was the best option for PG on the floor, aka in(couldn't find the continuous vomit smiley, which would've been better) worthy lineups that had 3 of Neal/Patty/Green/Kawhi/Jackson. That's probably Pop's most recurring mistake this season; not putting a playmaker on the floor. And 90% of the time it isn't garbage time. I know he's overloaded at the guard positions, even with CoJo in Austin, but he needs to realize that NDC is the future. Or maybe CoJo will be the primary back-up PG at the end of next season, who knows? I just know that Mills is a Neal clone who is playing better than the original this season and still getting significantly less minutes.
And did anyone else check the boxscore after not watching the game, and get confused by Splitter's 14 boards? I thought either it was a typo or I had accidently looked at Duncan's rebound total. He hasn't a stellar board game in awhile, and 14 rebounds in 34 minutes is pretty sweet. It isn't fantastic per se, but relatively speaking it is. Especially because Tiago has boarded significantly worse since he's been starting alongside Duncan. As long as he boxes out and battles in the paint even on his poor rebounding nights, I can live with it.
Interesting post, I agree with.
The whole Neal PG bs is a copy paste of RMJ situation. Pop needs to install a back up PG period. Trying SGs into PGs is just being stubborn, it doesn't work. The vast majority of the SGs are not capable to play that spot, not everybody is Manu, Kobe, Wade...
I also think TP grade from timvp is kinda BS tbh but it's not like he had a stellar performance either... so no big deal
TP got into a frickin hero-mode which is the most destructible when it comes to the spurs ofense. Now other then that he was far from being playmaker and I was wondering if LJ gonna give him B something. I'm all with timvp on Tps grade
He played like
He was swinging his arms in disgust at a no call. Got the first one. Then he keep on barking at the referee with a little nasty word or two. It was a consistant call as 3 Lakers had already tasted the whistle for doing the same thing.
As for his grade. B- is BS. He needed to be more like a D. He did not play the defense everyone says he can. He did hit a couple of key shots, but the ejection is unacceptable.
This game I forgot about already, like a win loss but a W in the column so I will take it. We have seen the Spurs come all the way back or come short in the end and call them moral victories so this is a moral loss.
Like I said before this started in the Clippers series late and has been going on since! They just look lost with the ball at times and throw it away or do some dumb pass that get intercepted. Ginobili like you said is the main one (Parker too an extent). It is like they just can't make a damn routine pass. Some tried to tell me in here or another board he was learning PG and getting better at it, YEAH F IN RIGHT LOL. Neal is a horrible PG, agreed.
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