You apparently do not understand why I would be dismissive of a white supremacist site. Okey dokey. I really do not want to discuss race with you.
I admit, the sources are not the most reputable, shows how little i care. You asked for links proving more guns do not equal more crime, I provided the first three that popped up on google. I'm really not going to waste my time researching well known facts. Find me something in that 120 page pdf that proves your argument that more guns equals more gun crime.
You can't, you won't, and you will not admit you're wrong. You're boring me now. I've presented simple facts, you expect me to read 120 pages. Sorry, not going to do it when I know for certain gun sales are up and gun crimes are down. You coward you.
You apparently do not understand why I would be dismissive of a white supremacist site. Okey dokey. I really do not want to discuss race with you.
Do you dispute the stats though, at least generally? I don't. Then why has the MSM gone out of their way to put the gun owning white males up front as the ones to be feared, what with their AR-15s and all? (The Alex Jones and Nugent types; surely nobody would dispute this). If white males murder at close to the same rate as the Europeans that we must be compared to, then what gives? Why take that angle? You take that angle to write a narrative. Why disarm the non inner city citizens to stop the inner city gun violence? To stop these mass shootings? You're kid is more likely to drown. You're as likely to get struck by lightening. It's an agenda.
I won't admit that I am wrong? For the last two days you have been telling me to look up if gun sales are going up and if crime has gone down. Today you call me a coward becuase I won't do it. I link a Yale Law Review article that talks about both and now I bore you? man.
You should read it. It's good stuff. They look at 3 different studies looking at the question and how they controlled for different variables. How it looked at the state and county level and differences in outcome. It at the very least tries to present studies with different conclusions and tries to leave out the editorials.
You guys do not want to talk about though. I think I am done arguing about gun control. The divide is clear and other people are bringing in eugenics and white supremacy . You've been cool but if I have to read more from DMC linking genetic markers and the concept of race which has no genotype or phenotype I think I will puke. I don't want to see what else crawls out of the woodwork.
Tries isn't good enough. Either it does or it doesn't. It doesn't, accept it.
I don't like nor feel the need to bring race in to the discussion when talking about gun control. Gun control facilitates what, which, how many, and to what capacity a law abiding citizen can own. Law abiding citizens are law abiding citizens, race has no part in that. I am concerned with gun control relating to law abiding citizens. You argue that there is no need to protect yourself with a semi-auto, fine, arm yourself as you wish. I prefer to arm myself with a semi-auto, if necessary, it's much more effective. And when it's not being used for self defense, my semi-auto is much more fun to shoot when I went to dump some clips and let some brass fly. Admit it, guns are bad ass, and really fun to shoot. The 2nd amendment guarantees my right to fun. yeah.You guys do not want to talk about though. I think I am done arguing about gun control. The divide is clear and other people are bringing in eugenics and white supremacy . You've been cool but if I have to read more from DMC linking genetic markers and the concept of race which has no genotype or phenotype I think I will puke. I don't want to see what else crawls out of the woodwork.
So you program PLC's.
OK...
You know don't you that the desk version seldom works in the field. The installation team often has to tweak the code.
It's that Fuzzy Logic...
When you have a culture to compare equal to ours, with so many violent gangs, and problems associated with our southern border, I'll entertain other nation's statistics.
PLC. You def are an 80s child.
The Cartel wars have now spread here? They don't with us really. You afraid to go to El Paso? San Diego?
PLC's are still around. They either don't use ladder logic like the past, and some use microcontroller simulated ladder logic.
What ever you do, microcontroller simulations is ... BORING...
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Really...
Wow. You really are ill informed.
You're arguing alone. The task was to show that more guns equals more crime. You've moved the goalposts to "shall issue" which wasn't designed to reduce crime.
I see you're moving the goalposts again.
So you see now that the number of guns owned by private citizens is not necessarily the lever that influences the amount of gun related homicides.
If you wish to discuss the effects of the Brady Bill, start a new thread.
This is factually incorrect. "Shall issue" does not increase the number of guns. It only allows private citizens to carry concealed. The entire concept of a concealed weapon is that others are not aware. It's design is to mitigate, not to deter. Were it to deter then it would be open carry.
You've been relegated to moving goalposts and playing the troll card. I've shown you data and correlation that's undeniable. I've stated that socioeconomic factors, not race, are likely the leading cause. You stuck your fingers in your ears and screamed out "racist!" hoping to draw some backing from the other posters (those that you somehow feel are your audience when you say "we") but the facts remain and are there for anyone who doesn't wear the sword beneath their gown.
You are a lying piece of . I present:
The argument is clear.
1) Black people commit more crime and if there is a link to criminal behavior and genetics they by default.
2) You present evidence that there is a genetic link to criminal behavior and genetics as well as black folks having a particular gene at a higher rate.
3) Conclude that being black predisposes you to criminal behavior.
It's straight out of the klan playbook you lying piece of . That you don't stand by it makes you a coward to boot.
simulated ladder logic. Thanks google!
So what sims are you running with what chip?
Still waiting for the more guns=more gun crimes facts.
Nothing I give is going to be credible to you guys. I told you I am done arguing gun control with people that have no interest in reading academic articles and are blatant racists. I am glad that you fit the former and not the latter. You can call me a coward if you like but I just see it as a waste of time.
I really just wanted to show people what kind of racist prick DMC is.
Could it be there is zero proof that more guns=more gun crime?
Do your homework while you're in that cubicle.
Saying that there other factors does not mean that you also said that you believe that black people are genetically predisposed to commit crimes. The two notions are not mutually exclusive.
Heres an idea: say that you do not believe that minorities have a genetic predisposition towards crime and I will leave this alone.
Your reminding me of WC with this dissembling cowardice.
You called me a liar. I proved I was not lying. You're once again shown to be mistaken. You will move the goalposts again.
I showed you data taken from reliable sources that wasn't originally compiled to make any such correlations, however the correlations are evident and impossible to deny unless you're more interested in appearing neutral to anonymous viewers than in seeking the truth as the academic in your long ass copy/paste eluded to.
The data supports my statements. I didn't mention my beliefs.
And I don't care if you leave it alone. You've aborted the issue several times already. Not all minorities are more predisposed to commit crimes than the whites so your request is an easy one to meet. I did not compile the data. Make your own conclusions. Belief has nothing to do with it.
There you go again with stupid assumptions.
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