"Im going to start killing people!"

[CosmicCowboy]

Why are they even discussing it? Has there been any serious policy suggestion that people would be asked to surrender their weapons? Or are you referring to the rabble that is roused via Fox News and right wing radio?

Yes there has. Try to keep up.

Did you not read Feinstein's bill?

[CosmicCowboy]

Why are they even discussing it? Has there been any serious policy suggestion that people would be asked to surrender their weapons? Or are you referring to the rabble that is roused via Fox News and right wing radio?

at Boutons, Pusher, and the rest of the thinkprogress bots disparaging people that watch Fox News. Pot, meet kettle.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We need to get m<s to make a video too then.

[Warlord23]

Yes there has. Try to keep up.

Did you not read Feinstein's bill?

Feinstein's bills (and position) reflect the Democratic party to the same extent that Todd Akin's positions reflect the Republican party. Yet you have no qualms in mustering faux outrage and preparing your response to an imaginary event.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

at Boutons, Pusher, and the rest of the thinkprogress bots disparaging people that watch Fox News. Pot, meet kettle.

So you agree that using either source as a go to speaks to poor credibility? I happen to think so myself.

[CosmicCowboy]

So you agree that using either source as a go to speaks to poor credibility? I happen to think so myself.

I don't get any news from fox. I get mine from reading real time news on the internet and mentally adjusting my credibility meter from the source.

[CosmicCowboy]

Feinstein's bills (and position) reflect the Democratic party to the same extent that Todd Akin's positions reflect the Republican party. Yet you have no qualms in mustering faux outrage and preparing your response to an imaginary event.

And you know that how? When Biden says they will do by executive order what they can't get done in congress one has to wonder what they are planning.

BTW you suck at this.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't get any news from fox. I get mine from reading real time news on the internet and mentally adjusting my credibility meter from the source.

So you stopped watching the Fox News Hour or was your old refrain of that telecast actually being 'fair and balanced' based on second hand information?

[DMC]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2448751.html

I think this guy realized he may have ed up...Tried to remove his video, but its too late. Doesn't really paint the gun crowd in a very good light.

So this guy is the gun crowd? I wondered who they were.

[DMC]

lol...this guy is pretty entertaining. If he thought that may smooth the last video over, it did just the opposite. Now he is advocating to start coordinating your community? lol...

You should pay him a visit and set him straight.

[DMC]

I own 1 gun, semi auto pistol with 1 box of 20 rounds. Hardly a fetishist, but I try

When is the last time you actually fired it?

[DMC]

If you want to know what they will do, just read my past statements.

1. They will ban the manufacture of high cap mags, but allow the sale of existing mags.
2. They will leave the assault weapon ban to the states and local governments, but they will impose a restriction on manufacturing.

Everything they do will concern "from here forward". There are millions of high cap mags in existence in the hands of private owners (thanks to the previous high cap mag ban). Those will increase and price and the market will be flooded with them. People who never owned one will now own an AR-15 style rifle and several extended magazines.

There will be no uprising, why? Because even the guy in the video (idiot) has decent means, and fat sheep don't break down fences to find greener pastures. It takes a lot to get people to risk their lives to prove a point, and right now that's all it is. It's still a partisan thing, very cyclical, it will subside.

[Warlord23]

And you know that how? When Biden says they will do by executive order what they can't get done in congress one has to wonder what they are planning.

So Biden makes a statement that contains no specifics, and you immediately conjure up laughably unlikely scenarios?

BTW you suck at this.

I confess I'm not very good at faux outrage.

[DMC]

Biden stated "they better not take my Beretta" meaning his over and under shotgun. Many people think he's referring to a semi-auto handgun. His type gets round the clock protection from ex SF dudes with H&K goods. He only has the pretty stuff, like the Holland and Holland

[ElNono]

When Biden says they will do by executive order what they can't get done in congress

When did Biden say that?

[Th'Pusher]

Yes there has. Try to keep up.

Did you not read Feinstein's bill?

polsury buy back/confiscation is in the bill that has not been introduced?

[DMC]

Depending on the amount, I have some I would like to sell.

[ElNono]

What the crazies also forget is that there's a legal system that already upheld the 2nd amendment validity when it comes to gun ownership and declared aggressive gun control laws uncons utional...

[Th'Pusher]

at Boutons, Pusher, and the rest of the thinkprogress bots disparaging people that watch Fox News. Pot, meet kettle.

Please show me one single post where I have cited thinkprogress or any other questionable news source in an effort to support a point.

[ElNono]

CC is a good fella, but he's certainly extra-sensitive about this topic... whatever it is they're running in red team's media these days to create a frenzy is apparently working...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What the crazies also forget is that there's a legal system that already upheld the 2nd amendment validity when it comes to gun ownership and declared aggressive gun control laws uncons utional...

Scalia said that the 2nd amendment was not supreme and that gun control measures was not prima facia uncons utional. When you allow people to not have howitzers it opens the door. The 1994 ban for example was upheld.

[ElNono]

Scalia said that the 2nd amendment was not supreme and that gun control measures was not prima facia uncons utional. When you allow people to not have howitzers it opens the door. The 1994 ban for example was upheld.

It doesn't get any more clear and recent than District of Columbia v. er. Based on that decision, any confiscation of firearms for self-defense is uncons utional.

[Th'Pusher]

It doesn't get any more clear and recent than District of Columbia v. er. Based on that decision, any confiscation of firearms for self-defense is uncons utional.

Which is exactly why this confiscation talk is nothing but rabble rousing nonsense from the likes of Fox News and right wing radio like Mark Levin, Limbaugh and Alex Jones to name a few.

[scott]

It doesn't get any more clear and recent than District of Columbia v. er. Based on that decision, any confiscation of firearms for self-defense is uncons utional.

Majority opinion in DC v. er, written by none other than Justice Scalia, pp 54056

Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.

[ElNono]

I don't think gun owners are claiming it's an unlimited right (besides perhaps the NRA). There's simply a major distance from regulating commercial sale to outright confiscation.