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I've never been sold on him, he will always be the scrub that got cut from Cleveland to me.
while we can still get something out of him i think he needs to be included in a trade deal with
bonner and blair .. these are the three official playoff chokers as you could prolly tell from yesterdays game.. against sub-par games sure he does an okay job,but in a playoff atmosphere and under the pressure as was in the laker game he doesnt show up, kinda reminded me of the playoffs last year.
we need a guy who can pick it up offensively wen tony and timmy are struggling someone who can create his own shot off the dribble a slasher a finisher not just a 3-point shooter..perhaps a rudy gay??
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I've never been sold on him, he will always be the scrub that got cut from Cleveland to me.
Regular season: Green > Neal.
But in a playoff game I have much more faith in Neal being able to step up and make a shot.
Which one changes their shooting stroke for the playoffs, Green or Neal?
Because I assume you're not basing this off of the 18 and 20 games, respectively, of postseason experience they have.
I don't have anything to back it up, but if I was the coach I'd rather Neal be in than Green probably during the playoffs. But I don't know about basketball so...
I want to see Green play more PO games. I need a bigger sample.
I kinda agree with this, I'm a bit of a Green hater, I think he and Bonner are what's wrong with Pop's love for specialists, I don't like that kind of player, that said the Spurs have way bigger problems than Danny Green, the biggest reason I'd trade him is because Pop loves him irrationnally like he did Bonner in the past and he tends to overplay him, including at the 3 when it doesn't make any sense.
Green had one bad playoff series. He shot 45% from 3 in the two series against Utah and Clippers.
Playing one bad series doesn't make you a playoff choker.
may i add hes a good defender but not great so whatelse does he offer when his threes are nonexistent come po time..
dg needs to improve:
slashing to the rim
finishing at the rim
creating his own shot (because those spot up tres are gonna be well defended come playoffs)
smarter passing(decrease turnovers, he often looks sloppy and in panic mode
penetration
love it now but these tre balls are gonna haunt us in the playoffs where its all about easy buckets at the rim
I am not sold either. You simply can't rely on scrubs like Danny Green to produce against quality compe ion. I dismiss the first two series of the playoffs last year cause the teams we faced we're simply overmatched (Jazz) or hurt (Clippers). We got a BIG break with the seedings; if you dismiss that fact consider yourself a re .
Our first real playoff series was against Oklahoma City. A series in which Green absolutely the ing bed.
Danny Green is a scrub, nothing more nothing less. That's it.
To me, Green's low b-ball iq is what bothers more than anything. Sometimes he does some stupid moves, but like Neal, he's a SG not a PG. Both are awful as a PG. Spurs needs to get rid one of them (or both) plus Blair and De Colo and get a good PG since Manu get injured often and is having some sloppy games.
Sometimes Green exhasperates me, but something tells me he'll be, and has to be, a huge factor in this playoffs if the spurs are going to do something big.
gary neal gives up just as many points on the other end no matter how much pts he scores....
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I like him. He can bring good defense, is young, long, quick and smart. There is no reason yet to believe he can't handle pressure.
He is a good role player and allows us some defensive options without having a black hole on offense. He is a 3 pt. threat.
Neal, I would rather shoot the playoff shots, but his defense is what would kill the Spurs. You need stops in the play offs.
That said, they are both improving every year. Green is better with the dribbles this year and Neal is showing good signs on defense. Good players who know their role.
Spursfan just hates on anyone that's not a bonafide all-star. We can't have all-stars at every position, sometimes you just need a good role-player. Danny Green is a good role-player. As in, he plays his role of being a good defender and a spot up three point shooter. Every once in a while he'll slash, or drive, but his main focus is defense and 3 point shooting. I agree with some of you that it would be great to have players at all positions that can do everything, but it's impossible unless you want to be paying crazy amounts of luxury tax. Even then, your team might not gel (looking at you Lakers).
So in summary, Danny Green is a great player for what he does. I also think that he's very young and too much is expected of him from posters here. He was guarding one of the elite scorers in this league whom not many can stop and you want him to shut that guy down? Not impossible, but improbable. Danny Green is not, as of yet, an elite defender. Good defender, but not elite; not even great. How can you hate on a guy that never fails to hustle, gives his all, and does his assigned task well? Replacing him with Rudy Gay? I'm not so sure those numbers work...
Manu Ginoboli is getting paid to be our starting two guard. Of course, he comes off the bench. But Danny Green isn't being paid to be an all star two guard. Ginoboli is. So you have to lower your expectations for Danny Green based on his salary, and raise your expectations on Ginoboli, who is paid to be a star.
Green knocks down threes, plays pretty good defense, is learning to score off back door cuts and other gimmicks. Yes, he's limited as a player, but he is effective playing with Parker, Duncan, and Ginoboli. I think he was given us what we are paying him.
Doesn't mean he can't or shouldn't improve his game. But I didn't see this thread when he was on fire earlier this year. I think people are being a bit fickle.
In addition to what Interrohater says below, do you realize the absurdity of what you propose? You first label three players as official playoff chokers and then you propose to trade them to bring back a player like Rudy Gay. That's basketball alchemy and just isn't possible in the real world. (Cue the "but, but, the Gasol trade...)
The last time we picked up a wing who could pick it up offensively wen tony and timmy are struggling someone who can create his own shot off the dribble a slasher a finisher not just a 3-point shooter...we ended up with Richard Jefferson.
Green is good for this team because we rely on the big three. I'm not ready to throw him under the bus because he struggled in 4 games in his first REAL playoff series (games 5 and 6 don't count because Pop screwed with his head by benching him and hardly playing him).
Our starting shooting guards over the years (besides the stints where Manu started): Danny Green, Roger Mason Jr., Keith Bogans, Michael Finley, and Bowen for one season (when Turkoglu, gag, was playing SF).
I think Danny Green is the best of the bunch outside of Bowen. Our starting 2 guard has to play good defense, run the floor, and hit open jump shots. Green had 1 bad postseason series, in what was his FIRST season has a regular rotation player, let alone a playoff starter. His 3 point shooting this season is just under 42% and he plays better defense than any of the aforementioned shooting guards (of course, Bowen being the exception because he was out of position). I mean Green is essentially Finley with better defense. I'd like to give him another postseason to prove himself. Of course he's not an all-star caliber player, but you can only have so many of those guys... Green is an awesome role player
Let me go outside and shake the SG tree in my back yard to see if something worthwhile falls off. brb.
I guess you guys prefer the days when Mason, Bogans, or Finley were the starting SG's.
Danny Green has somehow gone from the most overrated player on the Spurs to the most underrated player on the Spurs in a matter of a year. Some here apparently think that shooting guards who are capable defensively, can knock down three-pointers at a >40% clip and fit within a team structure (in other words, don't ballhog or turn it over too much) are easy to find. The truth is they aren't ... especially for what the Spurs are paying him.
Green has definitely improved in certain areas from last year:
1. Ability to pump fake, step through and then shoot. Against the Thunder he wasn't comfortable doing that.
2. Making timely cuts to the basket.
3. Drive and dish ability, especially lately.
Could Green go cold again in a tough playoff match up? Yes, but now he has other tools to help him score points and the team offense overall when his shot isn't falling.
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