Tim Duncan C
Defended well for the most part. Great rebounding-wise and guarding rim. Struggled shooting. Too sloppy.
Manu Ginobili B-
Shot well from deep. Fantastic on the boards. Needs to be a bit more precise. Invisible down the stretch.
Tony Parker B
Poor job running the show in the first half. Bounced back after halftime. Pouring in points kept the Spurs afloat.
Kawhi Leonard C-
The effort was there but results lacking against Gay. Offensively, he was totally out of whack.
Danny Green C
Played decently enough early -- even made plays below the three-point line -- but missed crucial shots.
Tiago Splitter A-
Exhibited great physicality. Post defense was wonderful. Very efficient offensively; passed well. Lacked boards.
Boris Diaw B-
D was average. Rebounding was poor. Too spastic on offense; passing was good but he has to limit mistakes.
Stephen Jackson B-
Quiet during his 19 minutes -- not much good or bad. Hit a big shot late. Passing on the move remains an issue.
Gary Neal C
Inattentive defense. Poor ballhandling. Didn't get the team into its offense. That said, his opportunity was limited.
Patrick Mills B+
Very good energy, especially on D. Hit the ground running and played hard.
Matt Bonner D+
Extremely hesitant on O; even passed up an open layup. Nothing too special on D and his boxing out was iffy.
Pop C+
Backup point guard is a mess. Consistency of rotation is lacking. Team responded to whatever he said at half.
Backup PG a MESS! I agree it is a MESS....... Rotation is lacking too, wtf he has had the same guys coming back from last year VP! Lets hope he gets it together soon and figures some rotations out! Green should not have been in there late or in OT, PERIOD.
Spurs playing worse and worse, soon hey will b e 5th in the conference and that really not a good position to go into the playoffs
I still don't understand why Tiago doesn't get more touches.
It's the same with Timmy but to a lesser extent. Even when they are having great games offensively, the ballhandler stops going to them, especially Tiago in the pick and roll
i dont give a if gary neals minutes were limited this game, but a fkn C? dude deserves a F
[QUOTE=Richie;6293444]I still don't understand why Tiago doesn't get more touches.
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touches as in PNR? then i approve of this
but when he starts to go low posts is the problem, usually ends up with some lame hookshot or too many pumpfakes with the missed up and under
I don't know if Neal's calf is really, really affecting his play, but I've seen enough from him. Defenders crowd him and teams bring double teams because they know he can't dribble worth a damn. I wouldn't mind seeing Mills take his minutes for now....
[QUOTE=TDMVPDPOY;6293454]Splitter is way too passive and unsure of himself in the post, which I believe is his main problem. So many times I've seen him recieve an entry pass with room to get off a quick shot or make a quick step/move where the only outcomes would be a made basket at best or contact and a possible/probable foul at worst. He literally sometimes will recieve a pass and actually wait to feel a defender come to his hip before initiating any move.. he has a total lack of confidence in himself. I'm sure it has a little to do with his skillset being somewhat inadequate for the nba level, but part of it is also on Pop IMHO.
the biggest culprits, imo, would be Duncan's ty game, the homecooking, and Parker going heroball during a few key possessions, but that's per par with him. I'm not even mad at Timmy, I never can get angry with him. I just hope he's alright physically. The game was close enough despite this that a few bad calls tilted the balance.
I'm not too pissed, and normally I'm not even super invested at this point in the season. I think the biggest issue is the ongoing one about backup PGs, issues with bigs. Hopefully the organization has something brewing in the background. I imagine the logjam at PG has created some unrest over whose going to be on the chopping block.
If splitter tries to dunk it he gets blocked 90% of the time
but you wankers still think he should finish palms down or whatever the fuk you say
even got blocked by rudy gay going for a open dunk but powered it threw
splitter is top 15 in the nba in field goal percentage and only 4 guys score about 10 pts or more at 58% from the field
chandler howard and deandre jordan
his finishing is fine but he does blow some layups
if what he did was so easy then every big in the nba would do it
the past few loses have been on timmy d
been throwing a lot of careless passes and has trouble finishing at the rim as well as midrange
he is the true key to the offense
without his versatility the spurs offense would be an average one
SA could still function without parker but Tim no
One thing I've noticed and I'll give Splitter credit for is he seems to have compensated for the nba's length and shotblocking by becoming more lethal at using the basket as a shield and always going to the opposite side for dink shots off the glass, that seems to be his preferred move nowadays. The thing I would like him start doing more of however is taking any opening given and going strong to the rim and in the process forcing contact even if he gets blocked occassionally. I wouldn't have said this last year when his FT shooting was abysmal, but now that he's adequate he should try to take advantage.
He still doesnt get much respect from the refs where hes comfortable taking contact when he knows there will be no foul tbh
he shouldnt have fouled out of todays game
randolph was the one pushing him and he was picking up fouls
ive watched the lakers play and howard gets a lot of weakass fouls that splitter can never dream of getting
Even though tonight's loss really stings, the other Top 3 teams in the West besides the Spurs have some pretty tough games coming up this month:
OKC FINALLY goes on a long road trip of 6 games and have 8 of their next 10 on the road. They have some pretty tough games including 1 against the Clippers, 1 against the Warriors, 2 against the Nuggets, and 1 against Memphis.
The Clippers also have a tough schedule with the exception of playing games against Orlando and Washington. They have a 3 game road trip @ Memphis, Houston, and Minnesota. They also play @ Golden State and then the next night at home against OKC. Then they have Portland twice as well...
The Grizzlies play Dallas tomorrow night, then home against the Clippers on Monday night before the re-match with the Spurs on Wednesday. Then they play Chicago, Indiana, the Lakers, Nets, Hornets, 76ers, and @ the Thunder. Not an easy schedule that's for sure...
I didn't see last night's game but I saw the box and the 6 fouls and I suspected some shenanigans from the nba's PC crew.
Tiago's offense relies a lot on playmaking. In this game his offense really shined when Boris Diaw was actively seeking Tiago with great passes. Parker and Ginobili are better scorers than passers. That's why I think the Spurs is not the best place for Splitter and he should definitely consider teams with natural playmakers.
Last edited by biskvito; 01-12-2013 at 04:22 AM.
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Manu not a playmaker? Umm.... don't think I'm quite agreeing. Aren't the spurs leading the entire league in assists right now with Parker and Ginobili as the two main playmakers?
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they are able to create, but it's not their main thing, that's what I meant for natural playmakers...
Parker is 9th and Ginobili is 40th in assists:
http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Assists.jsp
Last edited by biskvito; 01-12-2013 at 04:40 AM.
With no spacing, forced to pass where it's packed (which is the adjustment teams are making now and will continue to do against the Spurs) turnovers keep piling up and the offense overall is getting worse and worse. Spurs NEEDS to be a top 3 offense. At this rate we won't even be top 5 for much longer. Spurs are slowly but surely going away from what made the team most dangerous.
Then throw in that Timmy looks like he is ailing some and this is the worst level this team has been at for a long time.
That doesn't say anything. Manu is still the top playmaking SG and the biggest strength of the team is the overall passing/playmaking combined with outside shooting. Not many teams can fill the floor with better combos at that.
Only Spurs are now shooting themselves in the foot by slowly but surely going away from their strengths.
Luckily the pieces are still there and I almost expect Pop to find the best adjustments.
I agree with that too, the team lost its edge with Tiago at PF, I'd trade Green+Tiago for an Ilyasova that could restore the offensive flow. Also gimp Timmy playing 38 min is re ed...
only saw OT and spurs were looking good. Kawhi did up and probably cost us the game.
Memphis is a great ing team and contender. and they played well.
Spurs will be compe ive come playoffs. that's all spursfan can hope for.
regardless the Heat will win it all so don't feel so bad
There's only 1 ball to be handled, a natural playmaker finds the open guy and the easy bucket, which was were this whole dumb discussion began, Tiago offense on NBA relies on easy buckets, but the good thing is he moves well without the ball and Diaw was finding him better than anyone else.
amazing when haters all come out for the common cause, i approve of this....
lol timvp debolding the haters
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